July 11, 2007

PM's son's army gaffe

Hung said:

2LT Lee Hong Yi, better known as PM Lee's son, had fired off an e-mail within the military network lambasting the "quality of leadership" in the SAF to the top brass, including the Minister of Defence and the Chief of Defence Force.

Recommended by Anonymous Coward: "Looks like this particular white horse is even whiter than others."

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Submitted by Anonymous Coward on July 11//12:57am and published by tinkertailor, Agagooga :: 32247 reads | trackback (42)
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Trackback from Singapore Angle: From Consumers to Citizens?:

Reading the public response to the Li Hongyi's incident-From Consumers to Citizens?...

Trackback from Think Happiness: Mass Whistleblowing Military-Style :

The Second Lieutenant deserves every protection he can receive as a whistleblower. He should not be punished but he should be commended for what he has done...

Trackback from Oikono - There is the Army Way & the Right Way:

The army is the clearest distillation of this social contact. Its workings need not make sense. It need not be rational. It is right because it says it is right. ...

Trackback from Alvinology:

out of curiosity, I did an image search to look for a photo of Li Hongyi. And Voila! The picture above is what I found - taken from a RJC Prom Night photo album ...

Trackback from Balderdash:

Going up the Chain Of Command is useless. Your superiors don't care, and they are all friends, so complaining about one to his superior may not do much good, and may bring retribution...

Trackback from The Legal Janitor:

It takes someone who is immune to the inherent oppressiveness of that system to be able to stand up, point out the problems and go against the herd of sheep. I support Li Hongyi....

Trackback from Simply Me: PM Lee’s son reprimanded by SAF for misconduct:

This will inevitably bring out topics like the White Horse (WH) System, the “buddy-buddiness” amongst the people in the higher management, or the fate of complaints through the much mentioned SAF Hotline....

Trackback from MINDEF takes PM Lee's to task:

The Defence Ministry has formally charged and reprimanded a full-time National Service officer after he contravened orders by broadcasting a letter of complaint to other servicemen. ...

Trackback from Punished for blowing the whistle:

I guess Li Hongyi is still young, brash and idealistic, but he’s much better than Wee Shu-min, who, in my opinion, was totally obnoxious in what she wrote some time back....

Trackback from Copy of the orginal letter of complaint:

I am about to disrupt my national service to pursue further studies, and this will likely be my last email sent out for the next half a decade. Unlike the common “ORD letters” that you read, this letter unfortunately cannot be as cheerful....

Trackback from Talk Rock - Rockson :

This LTA X also stupid one. Want to tua also don't tua the son of the Dragon Prince Prime Minister lah. Never use his cheebye brain. Now Hong Kan by Hong Yi liao lor!...

Trackback from Chain-of-Command a necessary evil?:

There need to be structural changes in SAF - especially in the way superiors deal with with their subordinates. ...

Trackback from lukcy tan - As a Citizen, I have a right to DEMAND..!:

I'm a citizen of Singapore, I live in a nation led by extraordinary leaders whose integrity, ability and commitment to its citizens can make leadership in many 1st world nations look mediocre. ... I'm sure a few basic demands is not beyond them....

Trackback from Reuters credit bloggers:

Li’s letter — totaling 2,000 words according to the Today newspaper — has been posted online by several Singapore blogs, which have emerged as an alternative source of information...

Trackback from Decay On Net:

But some people are MORE equal than others. Break chain of command all the way up to minister and all he got is a warning. No DB or SOL. Not even extra duties. Nothing! Just a verbal warning. Everyone is equal, but some people are more equal....

Trackback from An Autopsy on the SAF Email Saga:

So, it is better to provide the information out there than to conceal it, given that new media is a double-edged sword which can go both ways. ...

Trackback from Snap Poll: Do you think it’s fair for PM Lee’s son to be punished?:

Apparently there are various opinions on this issue and it’d be interesting to know what is the general feel of Singaporeans about this issue. Some think that this is pure wayang. Some think that there is injustice in punishing 2Lt Li....

Trackback from How to write a complain letter:

Here's a step-by-step guide on how to write an effective complain letter in your organisation....

Trackback from Musings : What only age can impart to Hongyi:

... Such people may not deserve a third, or even second, chance ... [ but ] I sympathise ... ... The day will probably come when Hongyi makes a bad mistake ... Then, he will better understand, what it means to be unforgiven....

Trackback from Intelligent Singaporean:

Li Hongyi vs SAF...

Trackback from O castitatis Lilium.:

Now even his father cannot save him....

Trackback from Did 2LT Li commit an offence under the Official Secrets Act?:

Did 2LT Li commit an offence under the Official Secrets Act? Is this piece of information classified? Does everyone in the email list have security clearance to access this piece of information?...

Trackback from To Fix a Mocking Peasant - The Mysterious Aura of Information:

How many muted Li Hongyis could there have been in our silent History? We will never know. ...

Trackback from journalism.sg - Li Hongyi case: Bloggers force officials' hand this time, but…:

...it would be a mistake for bloggers to get carried away by a misplaced sense of power. Post-internet, Singapore still has the SAF Act and the Official Secrets Act, under which the circulation of Li’s email could quite possibly constitute an offence......

Trackback from Mr otaku:

Even if you are politically correct, you’re still deemed wrong because of your insignificant position! He shouldnt have forwarded it lah! Army guys are jackasses who likes to sabo people!...

Trackback from Support Whistle Blowing!:

Stand by Li Hongyi ‘cos what he did was right. All together now - blow your whistles! And blow it loud loud....

Trackback from the-double-0-project.net:

...here is a lot of hearsay about the ineffectiveness of things like the SAF hotline and being blacklisted for reporting certain stuff, it’s no surprise that a lot of servicemen face a lot of problems but don’t voice out, due to ignorance and fear....

Trackback from 2LT Lee Sticking it to the Man and the Political Ramifications:

2LT Lee's email diss of the SAF, RESPECT, is great political street cred if he wants to cash it much later if he wants to folow Daddy and Grandaddy's path....

Trackback from The Lone Tree Hill Incident at Lim Chu Kang:

It was a night in March 1996, my battalion was carrying out a routine exercise in Lim Chu Kang in preparation for the battalion proficiency test. My company was two months away from ORD, and that test would be our last exercise....

Trackback from A WHITE HORSE REINED IN:

Regardless of who he is, though, what Li Hongyi has done is a resonant indication of his attitude about who he is and what he is doing. ...

Trackback from The Prime Minister’s son - Li Hong Yi:

Bloggers are blogging about Prime Minister’s son, Li Hong Yi’s email. Here are the links to some of these blogs. Li Hong Yi was awarded the Lee Kuan Yew Award for Math &Science in August 2006...

Trackback from LEE gong si mi??? [ What did you say? ]:

HMM. I'm not very sure if 2LT LEE has considered the consequences for his actions. At this age, I know many boys are still rash and impulsive. But I'd assume a person of his heritage and IQ would have prepared him...

Trackback from Maverick sons:

The young sons of Hsien Loong appear to be quite independent minded. They are willing to speak up, quite different from many Singaporeans who simply toe the official line....

Trackback from PM’s son’s email saga a heartening development for Singapore:

Firstly, the fact that the son of the prime minister got charged for contravening a relatively minor military General Order shows that not even a “white horse” (the son of a VIP) is immune from punishment for wrongdoing. ...

Trackback from The PM Lee's Son's Email:

I think my PC came in a little late as he 'appeared' only slightly before 9am. The look on his face when he 'strolled' along the corridor after booking in and to find us all standing in the parade square fully armed... priceless.... hahahaha......

Trackback from E-mail by Singapore PM’s son backfires:

By John Burton in Singapore

The case involving Li Hongyi has served as a lightning rod for criticism on the internet of his family’s political power....

Trackback from laichungmunss:

my key suspect is who was the awol officer that 2lt reported on ? is he also a son of a big shot elite ? at least i know 2lt li didn't support elite cronysium....

Trackback from I Hope:

It amazed me how careless and reckless some of our SAF officers are and was prompted to cast some doubt on them holding up the plots of our nation's defence....

Trackback from 2Lt Li and the order of the SAF:

Read about the Internet Buzz over PM Lee’s son, and do you think it’s fair for PM Lee’s son to be punished?...

Trackback from Sink-A-Poor:

"I HATE YEW!"...

Trackback from Mindef explains its decisions over Li Hongyi affair:

Everyone can see with their own eyes that Mindef is trying to be partial… but I guess people are more concerned with… who is the world is LTA X?...

Trackback from My vineyards told me:

But my vineyards, which had been mumbling and not being really clear recently, told me why LTA X AWOL’d....