Trackback from Melvin Tan @ WP - Workers' Party and the PAP in Hougang:

Surely, government monies are not divided into income derived from PAP-held and opposition-held wards, using only the former's funds for HDB upgrading....

Trackback from cbernard - Re: My Thoughts In Hougang:

In your opinion, do Mr Low Thia Khiang add value to Singapore in his years in parliament? No matter how much you would love to say “erm… maybe not.” But it doesn’t really matter what you think....

Wasn't it Low TK who brought up the issue of the no-bid contract given to Ho Bee for Sentosa Cove????

It takes a rouge to tell others that an emperor wears no clothes
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`In a free-for-all Internet environment, where there are no rules, political debate could easily degenerate into an unhealthy, unreliable and dangerous discourse, flush with rumors and distortions to mislead and confuse the public`

Trackback from zyberzitizen - Oh my god! I am speechless!:

How does Singapore move forward if the ruling party has such people in both the grassroots and the very top of their party?...

Trackback from Aaron Ng - Why I swear never to join Young PAP:

if this is the kind of people that are going to become future MPs and ministers, I am packing my bags and leaving Singapore. ...

Every country is trying to stop money politics ... this is 3rd world politics. Upgrading is also money politics ... so how are we going to be 1st world when we are still playing money politics??

Worse, what will become of our future generations?? They won't vote for you if not given anything or waiting for free handouts to vote. They won't have any ideals ... just give me something and I will vote for you.

Is this the culture that we want for Singapore?? What about national unity?? The day will come when we have to stand together ... I wonder how many will stand with our so-called leaders?? 66.6% or 100% of Singaporeans??

I hope our ministers and policy makers think clearly before they continue playing this game. Such policies will have their effects in the future and we cannot turn back the clock.

Dynasties come and go, but there is always a remnant who shall keep their stories alive.
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`In 1955 Chou En-lai called the boxer revolt one of the cornerstones of the great victory of the chinese people 50 years later. In 1960, to coincide with the sixtieth anniversary of the rising, a play was written about the boxers by a Manchu whose father had been in the Imperial Guard at the time`

This YPAP guy is just repeating what our ministers said since 1997.

Anyone still remember how SM Goh threaten Hougang and Potong Pasir residents that their estates will become “slums” if they don’t vote for PAP in 1997?

Take a look at this if you can't or are too young to remember.
http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/97/0117/cs1.html

This threat had been repeated for EVERY election since 1997 including GE2006.

The senior PAP ministers are no angels on this issue, so why are we blaming this guy for for just toeing his party line.

What is the point?

Especially so when most S'poreans voters actually agrees with this type of politics as shown in GE2006?

Well, looks like that is the end of Joel's political career. We didn't need him anyway. He was a dispensible foot soldier. Please don't affiliate PAP to Joel Leong.

Y not?

As said by at82, this guy is just repeating what his bosses said GE after GE.

So let me get this straight.

WHEREAS: Both A and B pay income tax; both A and B pay GST; both A and B served National Service and have continuing reservist obligations; both A and B contribute to the government's tax income and protect the country in times of war.

HOWEVER: Since A stays in an opposition ward and B stays in a PAP ward; THEREFORE: it is justifiable to use A's tax monies to upgrade B's living conditions to the exclusion of A.

Wow.

Oh, just a side-note, stop brandishing the 66.6% votes in the last GE like some sort of a landslide victory. It's 66.6% of those who voted, not 66.6% of the entire country.

There is a difference.

"...not 66.6% of the entire country."

What are the chances of the votes in Tanjong Pagar GRC changing the "66.6%" statistic?

Even if everyone voted, it will still be in the 65% to 75% range.

Are we not assuming too much?

If the PM's own AMK constituency can poll a lower percentage than the national average, anything is possible.

It's good to be optimistic, but sometimes the lines between optimism and the reality can be blurred. You won't see a lowering of this "national average" for at least the next twenty years.

There is little room for optimism for the fate of fiefdoms when history is taken into account
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`Often ignorant, dissmissive, or contemptuous of the native culture, they (christian missionaries) and their aggressive proselytising threatened the very fabric of chinese family and village life. The boxers despised their chinese converts as traitors, rice christians who had sold themselves for a square meal` Diana Preston, The Boxer Rebellion

Trackback from Alphabet Isle:

Each time I hear such an extreme comment I figure that it really can't get any worse. Every few weeks, I am proven wrong....

WELL SAID!

The people at Hougang and Potong Pasir deserved it. Who ask them to vote for Opp party? They have no rights for the benifits that other PAP wards are having.

In fact, they do not even have the rights to live in the HDB flat. Young PAP should go to Hougang and PP to chase those people out of their HDB flat, which is highly subdised by the PAP govt.

And the roads! The roads also built by tax money. Tear them down. Same for electric and water. Let those who don't vote for PAP live in stone age!

Long Live PAP! Long live Young PAP! Majulah Singapura!

Hahahahaha.......

Trackback from Sylvia Lim - The Politics and Politicking Behind Upgrading in HDB estates:

Why did Singaporeans not vote overwhelmingly for upgrading? While many residents probably wanted lifts to stop at every floor, they may not have been prepared to co-pay under LUP or support the larger master upgrading plans....

Trackback from Warblings of a Little Bird:

Hah. Efficient? Do you know how many police officers were activated just to keep watch on Chee Soon Juan and Chee Siok Chin during the protests when the IMF came meeting in Singapore? Incorruptible? Google "Teh Cheang Wan" over the Net....

Trackback from Condoleezza Rice giving free lunches in Potong Pasir and Hougang!!!:

Tyropittakias!...

What did they feed that guy?

Let's try to look at this in the positive light. The blog is allowing YPAP to voice their views and all of you have a chance to give "feedback".

The type and manner of feedback is also important because it will affect the other side's response. I like many of the arguments put forward here as well as in the other blogs, and I like the fact that many of the responses avoided personal bashing of the original author (there is maturity to recognise that the view came from "higher grounds").

Let's hope that PAP can learn from this too (in a positive way, not find other ways of "fixing").

Don't worry. They have all the top talents inside. They will learn more ingenious ways to fix the people who voted for the opposition.

Its not surprising that the little kingdom should relive the lessons of its former masters
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`for Edward's attempt to pound the nations of Britain into a united super state ended up just reinforcing their acute sense of difference. The hammer that Edward had taken to the scotts had rebounded fatally against his dream of a reborn Britannia`

This is really stupid. First they give you a crappy place to live in called a HDB flat, and then promise to upgrade it for you if you vote for them.

This is like the sales guy at the store selling you a PC with 64MB ram, and telling you that you got a really good discount. Then he tells you later that he can upgrade the ram to 128MB if you voted him for the best salesman of the year award.

Come on, lifts should stop on every floor. That pavillion in the area downstairs? Everyone knows that it will be used for funerals. Covered walkways? Those should be the norm in monsoon Singapore. You're just getting what you should have got because you already paid for it. Don't threaten to take it away. Painting and upkeep, that's all paid with the monthly conservancy fees. It's nothing to do with who you voted for!

If the Govt sold you cars, you'd get the barebones version, and you can get upgrades if you voted for them.

Pwned.

But it doesn't matter really. Like everyone's said, he's been repeating what the ministers have said and yet hardly anything has been changed.

The net migration rate paints a different picture
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`And I will sow them among the people: and they shall remember me in far countries; and they shall live with their children, and turn again. I will bring them again also out of the land of Egypt, and gather them out of Assyria; and I will bring them into the land of Gilead and Lebanon; and place shall not be found for them`

Trackback from Sammyboy - Joel Leong Kum Hoe exposed:

The guy wrote an angry letter to WP Sylvia during GE 2005 claiming he was "a member of public"....

I am a member of the public too! To be more precise, I'm a clown. I've been following your bootlicking saga with a growing sense of unease culminating in indignance since Bro kTuLu5 exposed your identity over at Sammyboys. I clearly see your entire episode of wayang. So here I am to get just one answer from you.......are your parents proud of what you did?

http://domtheclown.wordpress.com/

Trackback from zyberzitizen - A creepy elitist arrogance:

But seriously, folks. Take a moment to think about the underlying hubris that’s behind all the quotes in this article. Have our fear of creating a class divide - in thinking, attitudes, words and deeds - arrived already?...