August 31, 2006

Of Wild Goats and New Citizens- Not a fairy tale

nofearSingapore said:

A Goatherd, driving his flock from their pasture at eventide, found some Wild Goats mingled among them, and shut them up together with his own for the night. The next day it snowed very hard, so that he could not take the herd to their usual feeding places, but was obliged to keep them in the fold.

He gave his own goats just sufficient food to keep them alive, but fed the strangers more abundantly in the hope of enticing them to stay with him and of making them his own. When the thaw set in, he led them all out to feed, and the Wild Goats scampered away as fast as they could to the mountains.

The Goatherd scolded them for their ingratitude in leaving him, when during the storm he had taken more care of them than of his own herd.

One of them, turning about, said to him: "That is the very reason why we are so cautious; for if you yesterday treated us better than the Goats you have had so long, it is plain also that if others came after us, you would in the same manner prefer them to ourselves."

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goatherds are simply providing a service to goats in exchange for certain rewards. its up to each goat to look after its own interests
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`When foreigners start a business in Singapore, they employ mostly their own foreign friends and relatives`

foreigners and locals - all constructs. If a foreigner wants to start a business here he has a right to do what he wants but employing foreign friends and relatives does not make commercial sense for middle management.

in time to come singapore will be flooded by new migrants who, if they aren't chinese, indian, or malay, will question if they want to forever be known as the 'others', the minority. If many well-educated Thais came down to work here, and they become a substantial number, what do you call them? Others? In due time, Singapore will change and i hope i get to see where she goes.

Posted by Anonymous Coward 3* on 31 August, 2006 - 2:13am

Without constructs, there would be no need for a nation-state, kingdom or village. In this day and age, we still need to make a distinction between a pimp and his whore
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`“We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it` Edward R. Murrow

bull shit lah! goat can talk meh?
why so bitter?
FT slept with your girlfriend, ah?

No, the FT slept with the goat... who happens to be your mother.

Posted by saiteocho* on 31 August, 2006 - 10:29am

Trackback from Yawning Bread : Selling immigration:

Alas, judging from Lee's speech, it's not a convincing sell. You can bet that other ministers and MPs will probably do an even more amateurish job of it....

i thought it was a metaphor to how the telcos and banks treat their customers like crap and throw gifts at potential new customers for new signups

Wild Goats or not, they eventually get slaughtered for food. So why bother.

Posted by Anonymous Coward2* on 31 August, 2006 - 12:32pm

Only silly goats get slaugthered. thats why I make a distinction between hand puppets & sycophants
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`As long as we can talk honestly on that basis, you can be a member`

Trackback from Mr Wang Bakes Good Karma:

I see his attempt to tie the lack of babies to the immediate need for foreigners as just another sales strategy to convince the Singaporean public about his foreign talent schemes....

Trackback from Singapore Politics:

for the PM to highlight this issue but totally not speak about birth rates policies or incentives is quite a significant deviation from the norm....

Trackback from THE INTELLIGENT SINGAPOREAN: Archive for the 'Foreign Talent' Category:

Archive for the 'Foreign Talent' Category...

Trackback from Diary of A Singaporean Mind: PAP tries to improve mediocre Singaporeans!:

When the brilliant elite PAP govt looks at Singaporeans, they probably say to themselves what a pathetic lot of people they have to rule over....

Feudalism has worked fine for the middle kingdom for centuries. theres no reason to doubt its role and place in our little kingdom
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`My daughters are unable to contribute financially, but they try to bring essential things like toiletries and clothes for the children whenever they visit` 12 July 2006, The New Paper

Trackback from The Tale of One Foreign Talent:

K is one example of what the Singapore government calls "foreign talent". I tell his story here, because his story says a few things not just about foreign talent, but also about life in Singapore today....

It takes little to be considered a talent in singapore & it has little to do with one's competence and ability to propose practical solutions to difficult problems
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`We will regret the time lost if we do not now take the first tentative steps towards correcting a trend which can leave our society with a large number of the physically, intellecually and culturally anaemic`

I'm sorry, not only is this a hopeless analogy, this is a xenophobic piece as well.

Bear in mind that a lot of our ancestors were immigrants too. And for the original people, they were displaced thirty thousand years ago.

I say cook all the goats and make mutton soup w/ them.

Posted by I hate the Shit Times* on 31 August, 2006 - 5:02pm

There are 3 threads going on at the same time: nofearsingapore.blogpost/tomorrow.sg/intelligentsingaporean

Dear friends,

Going back to Aesop , the perception is that old goats are treated worse than wild(new) goats.

Our new goats (new or future citizens) get to enjoy all the benefits without having to shoulder any major responsibilities of nationhood- ok.. they contribute to the economy whilst earning a salary… multiplier effect of economics/Adam Smith ,,blahblah
notwithstanding.

NS is a bugbear for many- not just the 2 years but the annual reservist call-ups which put them at perceived disadvantage with employers. It is not impossible to believe that some “unenlightened” employers actually discriminate against male S’poreans for this reason. (But of course we can never prove this).

If Sg is such a wonderful place/can walk in the night without fear of mug or molestation/clean green and sterile/now hip and happ’ning etc- then let them show some commitment. If this place is worth keeping, it is worth serving. When the call comes, who will be the one looking for the old green uniform to see if it still fits… me!!

My contention is that since NS is so wonderful, then let all new citizens also enjoy it, all of us putting our shoulders onto the yoke and ploughing together… It also helps us weed out the less than true blue-goats.

If we want those brilliant kids’ brains (& genes) (from HCM city/Mumbai etc), make them citizens first/ serve out some ( or all) NS , then put them on the fast-track career or politics .. whatever.

I am not against immigration. We also go to other countries right? They come, we go.
Just don’t be stupid and cheapen our citizenship. It becomes a joke if it gets any cheaper!

Cheers

Dr.Huang Shoou Chyuan
Nofearsingapore.blogspot.com

You can't cheapen what has no value.

Posted by Singapore Boi* on 31 August, 2006 - 6:37pm

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Playing the blame game as usual...

So it is a battle of the local goats and the foreign goats. In the end all goats die, slaughtered by the government so as to increase theis waistlines. Anyway the local goats die first.

Posted by the goat war* on 31 August, 2006 - 8:18pm

as long as they serve the unholy trinity, there shall be no sabbath rest for its people.

Posted by only lip service* on 31 August, 2006 - 10:00pm

well.. i guess the government will learn the consequences of its actions and policies soon enough. but perhaps by then, all our local talents would have gone on to the 'mountains', just like the new-comer goats did. by then, a complete new era would take place. an era of the leftovers. the ones that are either old, disabled, or the less educated. (no offence meant. but those that are unable to go on to the better ground) by then, we'll see how this country moves forward.

-lance
a pretty great sight, then.

Trackback from Immigration:

The world is facing the problem of population aging. This problem is not uniquely Singapore (sic). It is a natural phenomenon occuring more acutely in developed countries....

By the way dude, Mr Nofear, I fear you're no AESOP.

Posted by I hate the Shit Times* on 1 September, 2006 - 10:39am

Trackback from Whispers from the heart: National service is the mother of all problems ....:

Maybe, we could also adopt MOE's policy as well. Employ some native speakers to become army officers. Who knows, they might want to die for our country too, one day....

Agree. you will not be suprised that some day , we have PR ministers. Singaporeans so damn stupid that they cannot even take care of their own country.

Posted by Anonymous PR* on 3 September, 2006 - 6:24pm

Trackback from Singapore Kopi Tok:

Here in Singapore, we can ill-afford to have the Jean-Marie Le Pens and Pauline Hansons to tear the social fabric of our society that we have painstakingly nurtured over the 40 odd years of nationhood....

Trackback from Perry Tong:

Recognition and retention of local talent should and always be foremost in the minds and hearts of the government and the people of Singapore. There must exist a dual standard for labour in Singapore - Singaporeans must come first....

eh eh, our gahmen is free the old goats out to gaze, but continue to feed the new goats with high quality oats so as to attract more wild goats! O! And you old goats better work harder to grow fat and be slaughtered so I can but good oats to attract more wild goats at my mathematically, statiscally supreme calculation on certain extremely secretive data collected while you were sleeping and cannot be shown to you nuch of mathematically stupid goats!

Posted by Anonymous Cowed* on 10 September, 2006 - 9:51pm