March 28, 2006

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

at82 said:

Frankly, I am sick and tired with the PAP government for threatening Singaporeans with issue of upgrading during each election season since 1997.

Come on, who is the PAP government trying to kid? Where does the money for the upgrading comes from?

PAP ah? No, it is US, the TAXPAYERS...

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Some news on that going.......

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Another post commenting on the issue...

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Other news on the elections going on......

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Mr Wang has a few crazy ideas for the parliament, should all the opposition wards are captured....

Well said, PAP IS afraid of us voting for the Opposition, that's why they are resorting to dirty political tricks.

The power is with the people. We have to let PAP know there is a political price to pay for the immoral act of withholding government funding and threats. This dirty election tactic started by PM Goh (as he was then in 1992) in a bid to win back 4 opposition wards SHOULD NOT continue in Singapore. We belive in JUSTICE and EQUALITY.

PAP is not a party led by angels, JUN ZI (as they like to call themselves), as far as I can tell. Why do they deserve more respect than the ordinary man in the street?

Yeah, so sue me for defamation.

Posted by Voter Wannabe* on 28 March, 2006 - 3:44pm

I just want the PAP government to practise what they always preach.

Namely, doing the right things.

They said they are doing "the right things" with GST, cut in CPF contribution rate, COE, Foreign Talents etc...

Fine, I accept that.

But please don't tell me that denying equal funding from the STATE to Potong Pasir and Hougang is the "right thing".

there is no right thing. its simply a matter of expediency
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`There were times when it seemed to the animals that they worked longer hours and fed no better than they had done in Jones's day`

Yeah. I think that the people living there should just lead a march on the HDB or the parliament or whatever. It'll be interesting to see how the gahment deals with that.

you would probably have been locked up for saying that if this were the 60s
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`Fearing a communist resurgency, the Malayan Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman insisted that Singapore round up all pro-communists before the merger occurred`

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Senior minister's warning that Singaporeans who elect opposition will lose out on state subsidies for estate upgrading has raised a large outcry among the Internet community....

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These two “neglected” wards as described by SM Goh should not be held ransom by politics. Serving the ppl should be the ultimate objective....

Politicians are service providers, as are doctors and lawyers. they provide their services because there are mouths to be fed
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`I don't believe that is really the answer. If a person is corrupt, he will always be corrupt, even if he has millions in his pocket .. Money is not something that can stop them from being corrupt. What can stop them from being corrupt is to inculcate in them the positive value of honesty`

At times like this, let the people be reminded with a few choice quotes from our very own MM Lee-

"If it is not totalitarian to arrest a man and detain him, when you cannot charge him with any offence against any written law - if that is not what we have always cried out against in Fascist states - then what is it?… If we are to survive as a free democracy, then we must be prepared, in principle, to concede to our enemies - even those who do not subscribe to our views - as much constitutional rights as you concede yourself." April27, 1955

"We have to lock up people, without trial, whether they are communists, whether they are language chauvinists, whether they are religious extremists. If you don't do that, the country would be in ruins." 1986

"I can assure you that in , when WE decide that they are breaking the rules of the game, the unspoken rules as to how WE survive, how WE have prospered, then either their head is broken or our bones are broken."

"I belong to the old school. I believe that it is better to be feared than to be loved. My younger colleagues sometimes want to be both.”

"Supposing Catherine Lim was writing about me and not the prime minister...She would not dare, right? Because my posture, my response has been such that nobody doubts that if you take me on, I will put on knuckle-dusters and catch you in a cul de sac...Anybody who decides to take me on needs to put on knuckle dusters. If you think you can hurt me more than I can hurt you, try. There is no other way you can govern a Chinese society."

"Mine is a very matter-of-fact approach to the problem. If you can select a population and they're educated and they're properly brought up, then you don't have to use too much of the stick because they would already have been trained. It's like with dogs. You train it in a proper way from small. It will know that it's got to leave, go outside to pee and to defecate. No, we are not that kind of society. We had to train adult dogs who even today deliberately urinate in the lifts."

"If I have to shoot 200,000 students to save China from another 100 years of disorder, so be it."

Posted by R for Repression* on 28 March, 2006 - 5:37pm

So I like to fwap! So what? It's a free country, and I have two hands.
(sieteocho)

this quote is more defensible
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`I'm prepared to banter with you. I'm prepared to humour you. But if this were an Orwellian society with an Orwellian leader, would we be having this conversation`

Wow, that's pretty hardcore.

Tang Fong Har could probably tell us a thing or two about hardcore
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`When queried on my future plans, I told him that I would get a job and continue my flat hunting and, if I was free, interested and approached, help in the election campaign of opposition candidates. He told me that that was what had got me into trouble in the first place and that politics should be left to the politicians`

I am going to ask PAP MP Indranee Rajah for her justification of PAP's estate upgrading threat.

NUS FORUM ON THE SINGAPORE GENERAL ELECTION.
DATE: WED 29 MARCH 2006

TIME: 5 PM

VENUE:LT 11

SPEAKERS LINE-UP:

· Mr STEVE CHIA (NCMP, Singapore Democratic Alliance)

· Ms INDRANEE RAJAH (MP, People’s Action Party)

· Mr CHIAM SEE TONG (MP, Singapore Democratic Alliance)

· Mr CHIA TI LIK (Workers' Party)

· Ms CHERIE LIM (PRIVATE SECTOR)

Posted by Sgporean* on 28 March, 2006 - 5:58pm

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In politics, a pork barrel (or pork barrel politics) is a derogatory term describing government spending that is intended to benefit constituents of a politician in return for their political support, either in the form of campaign contributions or votes....

then it does not apply in this context - because we are talking about a fiefdom
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`The rule was against sheets, which are a human invention. We have removed the sheets from the farmhouse beds, and sleep between blankets. And very comfortable beds they are too`

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Opposition ward or no, these people still remain true-blue Singaporeans. Are they reduced to second-class citizens simply because of their political choice? ...

it is not expedient to burden ourselves with the outmoded ideas of nationalism & citizenship
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`The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which`

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Of course, the PAP is not so despicable to hold old folks hostage and force them to take the stairs just to get their votes. It is all a matter of luck....

Don't vote for them, no upgrading. Vote too much for them, and not much democracy (not my brand of democracy anyway). So you decide.. I only wish I live in Hougang.

Posted by H for Hyprocrites, all of them.* on 29 March, 2006 - 2:33am

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On the issue of originality, how about a more original heading rather than one copied from V from Vendetta?...

"If you believe in democracy, you must believe in it unconditionally. If you believe that men should be free, then, they should have the right of free association, of free speech, of free publication. Then, no law should permit those democratic processes to be set at nought, and no excuse, whether of security, should allow a government to be deterred from doing what it knows to right, and what it must know to be right... "
- Lee Kuan Yew
Legislative Assembly Debates, April 27, 1955
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once we were naive, we thought it was the voice of democracy, when in actual fact, its the voice of a machiavellian dictator using all his tools, which today, includes the verisimilitude of benovelence

Posted by Anonymous Coward 6* on 29 March, 2006 - 7:05pm

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So how come Singaporean all is gian by the same gahmen pattern? ... And some more the gahmen only show you their goodie five year one time. The other years we ownself rub ownself. And must pay extra to pak chew cheng also....

when i realise that potong pasir did not receive much aid in their upgrading funds from the government i was appalled. totally salute mr chiam for all he has done for potong pasir all these yrs.

Maybe SM should consider stand in 1 on 1 against CST in Potong Pasir... i wonder what's stopping any of the PAP heavyweights from doing so???

i pretty sure that most of them have better O level result or even PSLE than CST!!

Posted by Anonymous Monkey* on 30 March, 2006 - 12:00pm

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The elected government of the day should work for and together with all Singaporeans transcending political factions. The provision of upgrading programmes and public amenities must not be dominated by narrow party self-interests....

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Upgrading. Nice. But, why are you shocked? Singapore is no democracy. I'm surprised they even bother with elections. The Soviet Union often had elections believe it or not. Of course, there was only one candidate on the ballot. That is a PAP dream. I just cannot understand why voters would want to enslave themselves under the heavy hand of PAP rule. Don't voters like to think for themselves and have real and meaningful access to political discourse? Whenever a government, especially one that purports to be a democracy, passes laws that criminalize free speech , politicial or otherwise, (Singapore is neary alone in world democracies as categorizing "politicial" speech as seperate from free expression and therefore able to regulate it ), the political party in power has put their self-interests over that of the peoples. Said more clearly, PAP believes your freedoms are not as important as their political dynasty. Of course, I suppose the fact that Singapore has more executions than even Saudi Arabia and by nearly 3 fold, renders the above not all that hard to comprehend. Until Singaporians actually do something drastic to make changes (here is an idea---vote out PAP), you are lucky its just upgrade and not the forced adherence to single party rule. Now be good libertarians and go blow something up.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 18 October, 2007 - 9:58am