Welcome to the internet. Where anyone can complain about stuff in real life on their blog, but don't have enough balls to do something there and then.

Don't like people putting stuff on the seats? Tell them. Seems simple enough.

Easy for you to say...what authority do you hold to tell people to behave? Your balls? Sometimes, you get abused by these unreasonable people.

There is also nothing wrong to highlight bad behaviour to create a higher level of awareness and politeness.

You have a point. It's far easier to bitch about something from the safety of your home rather than there and then.

I see stupid people everywhere, they don't even know that they are stupid.

sigh another day another glimpse at our gracious society.

with increased fares, perhaps the officials can spend more time physically (inane posters don't work) 'educating' these numbnuts on the niceties of social etiquette. or they could make it a CIP for students to piss off these selfish tards and get CCA points for their efforts, call it a courtesy cop project.
everyone wins!

i agree wif the first comment, if someone need a seat, just ask.

if you cant tolerate rude behaviors, confont up front. i m sure in singapore u wont get a slap for asking ppl to move their bags.

while i dont agree wif ppl hogging seat or behaves badly in public setting, taking pictures putting online is ways too invading public privacy. stop playing god "displaying" what is right what is wrong if one has no guts to so anythign about it in the first place.

as if this is a more "educated" thing to do.

there is no privacy law in singapore.

i think this blogger has a wonderful mission... it's not being childish or whatever you want to brand it.

he is highlighting all the ugly antics of Singaporeans on public transport. i am sure while reading the blog, some of us will realise the bad habits that we have without noticing it ourselves previously.

i remember seeing a news report on tv about shanghai police initiating a campaign to encourage pedestrains to take photographs of people jaywalking, and then they provide a bulletin board for the photos to be displayed.

and guess what, it has proved to be an effective measure to deter jaywalkers because of the fear of having one's photograph put up for the public to laugh at.

now, if our govt adopts this method to make singapore a more gracious society (by encouraging people to take photos of selfish and kiasu commuters and providing an avenue to publish those pictures), i am sure this will improve the situation in no time. however, i think our govt prefers to slap fines rather than embark on loss-making campaigns.

You don't even need to tell them off, sometimes, just pointing at the seat, indicating that you want to seat, is embarassing (for them) to take their stuff off it.

Don't have the guts to do something about it? Then I don't blame those passengers that ride roughshod over you.

Usually such people will let you have the seat if you ask for it no?

Well, once I asked for standing room in a crowded train. I was given the leg. What do you think?

i think there's a difference between pointing out people's behaviour and making really crass remarks. This blogger had an entry on someone sitting widely as if he had just had a circumcision. Personally, i think that's just crassness masquerading as wit.

but can you deny that his post has accomplished the effect of highlighting bad habits, crassness aside?

popular bloggers like kennysia, miyagi , mrbrown, etc, often put up crass or remarks of bad taste on their articles but i don't hear people complaining they are crass

how do you know the blogger *didn't* ask uncle to move his package? the quote says uncle refused to move it.

And yes, I agree tht the particular comment about circumcision was crass. that doesn't make it less funny.

have you asked to know it's no?

i think many singaporean n asian in general have a problem wif sticking their neck out. if a simple matter like not getting a seat if one is not assertive enough then it's the person's problem. i doubt this blogging thingie is considered "sticking neck out" in term of "constructive criticism".

if the blogger feel like to post up pics of weird ppl online for his/her own fun then that's another matter. but if the purpose of posting pic is to "raise awareness n self-righteous and for a better society blah blah" then it is unconstructive and immature.

firstly, as if these uncle would read the blog and realize "oh i was wrooooooooong. please forgive me and i promise i will give up my seat next time". no they dont read blog. and had they have such awareness they wouldnt have hogged the seat in the first place. Therefore, the act of taking these pics n post up have done nothing constructive to the act of hogging seats (or whatever rude behaviors what so ever). if you have excessive sense of righteous then "excuse me sir, i think your bag is taking up seats" or something of the kind is ways more contructive. ) tell me if they bunch you for saying that. if they dotn give you the seat, what excuse did they give?

secondly, it's not an act of courtesy to take pictures of other people (spy cam) and putting them online without their acknowlegement. so on what account would one who can not commit to act of courtesy themselves have to "raise awareness" and ask for courtesy from others? if this person is called "courtesy cop" then he/she should be the first to receive a "courtesy lesson".

thirdly, consider the "emotional damage" the victim and his/her surrounding victims would suffer had he/she was accidentally captured. to get this frank i know no one in any of these pic, but imagine a scenario if one of them is your next-of-kin, or someone you know who on a bad day happen to place a bag on the seat wanting to be left alone. even when the act of hogging seat is intentional, what can the damage the person cause? No one die from not having a seat in a bus/train ride. Sure you want a better graceful society then like i said back to point 1, tell the person!!!! Imagine noone say a word and yet take pic and post online to "public scrucify" then if someone who happen to know the person and say to your face "oh hey, your uncle/aunt/father/mother is a rude stupid ugly smelly old man wif bad upbringing and i have his picture online here" what would YOU do? i think courtersy start wif being considerate wif other ppl's right and the fact that some one who is not as equally considerate (here given the fact that there are ppl standing and the seat was hogged) does not mean the person deserve an inconsiderate treatment in return.

anyway and blah blah blah ... thats pretty much sum of my point already unless there is new arguement.

yours is a very stubborn and narrow-minded kind of arguement.

what emotional distress are you talking about. well, for me, when i see people behaving negatively on public transport it certainly gives me emotional distress!

as i said in my earlier post, if this photo-taking thing is done on a larger scale, there will be the deterrance effect. true, uncles and aunties don't read blogs. but if this becomes a bigger campaign, young people who do surf the internet will be aware and will be more careful of their manners to avoid having their pictures put up for all to scrunticise.

gracious society cannot be achieved by telling people off one-by-one. if you tell off somebody with a habit of occupying more space than he needs once, chances are, the next time he will do it again and you won't be around to stop him.

the only way to achieve a gracious society is by means of EDUCATION, PUBLICITY and DETERRANCE.

I concur. sometimes you have to do cruel things to create a kind society. thats why its illegal to pee in public lifts
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`It's like with dogs. You train it in a proper way from small. It will know that it's got to leave, go outside to pee and to defecate. No, we are not that kind of society. We had to train adult dogs who even today deliberately urinate in the lifts`

Think before you comment. Your arguement reflects your stupidity and selfishness.

Some bold bulky fellow ought to go sit on this anal uncle's bomb package.

I know the uncle in the photo and I have asked him to read this. He said he is going to sue the blogger for defamation because he is a business man with many clients.

He sure is very "businessman" looking huh?

businessman take mrt. his merc must be in the workshop lah..

uh huh

visceral, many of us so-called anonymous cowards don't see a point of putting names down because we are not regular commentators here like myself, who just dropped in out of boredom today and saw this hilarious disccussion and decided to join in.

why would i want to put my name here when i have no ongoing interest in what's going on around here?

what i notice is *most* people who put names down are those who have their own blogs and want people to click on the links to visit their blogs so they can get more traffic.

anyway, if you like, i can put down a name, but you won't know who i am anyway!

I think we are referring to two different groups. Mine can be found posing as concerned citizens on the newspapers trying to do a good deed
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刘项原来不读书

anyway, i just noticed from your signature... talking about people being anonymous cowards, you yourself seem to advocate 'anonymous-ism' by putting up those links to anonymous proxies.

as long as you are using a local ISP, anonymity is not an option

Considering that this blogger has put race in his criticisms do you think he will be the 5th blogger to get chopped up by the Sedition Act? Anyway I must agree with Candyfeehily about the fact that putting other people's photos online without their knowledge or permission is in itself being impolite and inconsiderate. The least that blogger could have done was to take the pictures without the face or blur out the faces. The blogger makes himself sound like a courtesy saint, as if he has never committed any booboos like opening his legs widely, or hogging space. Then again one of his interests is to 'tok cock' so whatever rocks his boat!

About the race thingy, I'm not sure. Well he did state that he is not against other races or what. But what I felt is that what he is doing is right, because he is exposing what people are doing, so that maybe it could capture other's attention. What I felt not right is that yes, he should have at least blanked out the faces in the photos.

Sedition? No I don't think it will end that way. But if it really falls under sedition, he could have just said "one army guy that's sitting beside me.....I think such people have problems with their upbringing" and so on, keeping away from the racial matter. That should in turn work out well I believe.

Cheers.

this is lame. and stupid. i don't see the point in posting up the picture

what's with the blogger?
The world don't revolves around him?

There are singaporeans rude enough to chope seats like that, and there are singaporeans who are too polite to say anything. I beg to differ that all singaporeans are rude.
Once, this american person said " damn you guys" when people rushed out.
Isn't there a better way to say it?

wrt this ah pek, just ask him to take it away, and he'll do it. I've asked people to move in many a time and to remove their shopping bags.

There was this one time a korean woman was yakking on the phone and pushed a trolley full of items into the express lane, where only 6 items are allowed. She pretended not to know what an express lane was! I think that is when I should have stepped up and enlightened her.

shrug. some of the comments got it right that sg ppl tend to be less willing to stick their neck out. personally, I will do something subtle. Like...if guy like to sit with leg open big big, i will open my leg to push his leg back to his own seat. If that guy likes to seat on 3/4 I will purposely keep pushing and leaning till he moves inside his own space.

Works for guys only (u try on gers good luck to u)

I can't stand people who lean on poles in mrt and buses the most. I will do the hand knuckle of doom! put my hand on pole. angle knuckle straight at the person's back. wait for him/her to move when the bus stops or bounces, and then my hands goes sliding down. then when they lean back again. bang straight into my knuckles that are aiming their back.. and then I will look innocent :D

if there are no people standing, or no people who want to sit down even though they are standing, then i don't think there's anything wrong with the uncle putting the bag on the seat...

i just think that it's a bit unfair for people who understand the situation based only from the posted pic to take an unnecessarily firm stand as the pic doesn't even show people needing to sit, and not much background was given in the writeup accompanying the pic.

of course, if it really were the case that the uncle refused to vacate that extra seat, then it's his bad; though personally i don't think i've ever come across anyone refusing to give up the seat if asked to.

don't forget: you are invisible only if you choose to be so.

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“Why do you think is the reason that her bag has to occupy a seat?” he asked. “Hmm… because her elegant bag is not elegant enough to be placed on her elegant skirt?”...

hehe i just made a report for the racial slur of this blogger, yippe another one behind bars ... for one day but well at least defamation in the newpaper is good.

hypothetically, I wonder if this guy is asking for trouble.

Let's say if someone was featured on his blog for being fat or having big balls, and took offence. Then decides to sue for defamation. Can this blogger defend himself?

he's got one blur picture of two thighs touching each other. What kind of proof is that? Will he get witnesses on the bus that day? I seriously doubt it.

As a side note, adding the words "I don't mean to be racist" in front of a somewhat racist comment is not going to make it ok.

blogging is a form of narcissistic exhibitionism.. where self-love is everything.. attention seeking babies that need their milk so much.. blogging kills conventional face-to-face conversations/confrontations.. it degrades our communicational skills and make us look dumb real life.. and that could have been the reason for the increasing difficulty to "stick" it to the "man"..

Sure, what the guy did (or does) might be 'correct' in raising awareness for those who view his blog, but what about ethics? Is it morally correct in posting the pictures of those who 'offended' him? In my opinion, it's wrong. Sure, he got pissed off by their behaviour (I would have been too), but that doesn't give him the right to upload a photo of the 'offender'. He coud be an offender himself.

The past posts about the China lady smelling like a rotten pork, and then describing how he 'shielded' the Muslim ladies from the smell really brings home the bacon. Or rather the rotan, in his case.

'not because i'm racist (i'm not) but the fact that i was sitting at the corner'

Yeah, right.

Hey, that looks like a 'suspicious' article. Wow, now we can alert the MRT security by blogging yeah?

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Not speaking up may not means the person is afraid. What if the bags the other passenger carrying is dirty. You won't want to sit right? I had even worst experience. I stay near bus interchange & take bus to work from there daily to work. Some kiasu ppl staying 2-3 bus stops away walk all the way to take a bus there thus making less seats available. They can walk so far likely means they are young right? They may have taken a seat needed by some senior citizens.