Additional point to the previous comment>>> I got groped by him though. Too weak and scared to say no. That's bad enough, I guess.

I have to change my nick to an androgynous sounding one to prevent myself from being flooded non-stop on IRC. Within 5 seconds of logging on to high traffic chatrooms, I get more than 20 private messages. 90% are asking for sex. Or luring girls into sex.

Almost got raped by a guy who proclaims that he wants to be my boyfriend and when I refused, he "broke up" with me soon after.

I was 17.

Gosh!

Tell me who - I'll break his legs.

Muahahaha it's ok. I can't even remember how he looks anyway :P

IMO, the people who set-up the Blogs should be ashamed of themselves. Sounds like a bunch of Sl*ts seeking revenge after rejection. Think they have some ego problem towards men that they can't handle.

IMO, the people whose faces are up in the Blogs should be ashamed of themselves. Sounds like a bunch of desperate D*cks seeking action after tonnes of real life rejection. Think they have some ego problem towards women that they can't handle.

the girls are going to regret dearly if they do not wise up. If the photos are fake, they will be sued dead...hope common sense prevails. some of the photos send over to them could be fake. I know one of them is. keke

Yah, and sucks to you too.

- Wannabe Lawyer

Although the privacy issue is in question, those guys did give out their pictures on their own free will but they did not know the content. I guess by placing the pictures online, they wanted to deter those idiots and other wannabe idiots to go elsewhere for their quick fix instead of finding young girls.

Moreover,the internet has never been a private domain. How private can you expect ur conversations to be? Afterall, those men dun seem too shy about giving physical details about themselves(which are probably fake). So how can they cry for privacy if they are using a domain that is public and they too release fake details about themselves? How can they cry foul if they realised that they got lied to by the girls? They lied too.

And as the about comments mentioned, the means justify the ends.

Isn't UK also looking into publicly shaming pedophiles?

There's a fine line. There are girls with their eyes wide open, looking to make money. Then there are girls who are naive and get taken advantage of and scarred. It's the latter group that needs to be protected from predators.

Trackback from coup de grace:

'The case against internet vigilantism'...

Does anyone more knowledgable than myself, Shianux maybe, know whether criminal charges can be brought about against the blog owner(s)?

The aquisition and display of such content is more than morally reprehensible, it seems criminally wrong.

just a caution...the owner of this blog could be sued if the pictures are fake...people do crap about in the net to pass time, out of boredom or to release stress.

Wickedly entertaining.

getting it right 4 out of a 100 tries is good enough for most phallocentric louts. & some of them are too callused to feel shame lying about their own age, gender or sexual orientation

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the next time a male predator on IRC chats up a young girl, he'll probably be wondering if this is a setup.

Well done. The end justifies the means.

No, next time round, they will insist that the gal gives him her handphone number. the reason why the 9 "victims" kenna is bcos they were taken in by her tales of why she cant give him her hp and house numbers. Now they know better if the same old cheap trick is used again.

Oh sorry, I meant that I was worried about the underage. Not undreamed. Dun know why the hell I typed that, haha.

Yes true, but in my case, I'm more worried about the undreamed than the social problems that these guys have. Though it's extreme that they would demand or request sex at the first chance they have.

That 16-year-old kid is a real jack-hole. I really cannot imagine what kind of a person he would turn out to if he continues down this path.

Obviously, I'm not a 100% nice guy or anything like that, but there is a limit to what we guys can do. What we see here is beyond the threshold of tolerance.

Age is not the concern here.Its how males are treating females in chatrooms.The way males protray women to be that cheap and taken advantage of is definately an insult.That's where the blog scores points with the females as we can relate our sexuality.Its not about age.You see how men actually can initiate sex upon the chatroom without even getting to know someone is an outrage!There was no indication in 'webwhore's' comments for the 19yr old to be naive.she was referring to teen girls in general.society may be opening up now with such sexuality issues.But it does not mean people are aware of it.

try to think logically for a second. if there weren't any women out there looking for sex online as well, would there be males fishing for them?

Many girls need to be protected against themselves. How would you feel if you had a daughter in that position?

Ah... an adept at the art of fishing....

Free sex via mirc? No such thing man. Girls should never let men like them get lucky. They dont' deserve this at all.

True, there is no such thing as free sex whether via mirc or outside mirc. Girls should only let men who buy them chocolates, flowers and other expensive gifts, get lucky.

Hi all, I'm the person who commented on "From what I read in the papers, in many such cases, the girls are not even 18. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the girls want to get into such conversations. Its just that if they reveal their true age (Say maybe 14?), people tends to avoid talking to them because the topics tend to differ. Therefore, the guy in your channel may be chatting up girls as young as 11."

Thing is, sometimes, the girls themselves are curious about the real world and would not reveal their true age so as to be part of the chatroom. But do we blame them for that? We do not, because it’s like blaming an infant for trying to grasp the flame on a candlestick. We have all been young before and we know how naive and curious we are. And we do know that curiosity kills the cat.

I would rather we have vigilantes working hard to filter out as many of the bad eggs than to have someone I know or love suffering the fate of an IRC date rape. Contrary to this statement, there may be people who dread seeing their loved ones or friends caught in this entrapment, but to callously put it, why do this in the first place? Especially those with wives, it’s already morally wrong.

Regret is always the worst alternative to apathy.

I think they do it for the thrill of the chase. Otherwise, Geylang is the logical thing.

Rape is wrong. Period. Whether it resulted from IRC or thru other medium is irrelevant. Going by your warped logic then, we should also have vigilantes working hard in pubs, clubs, schools, beaches, anywhere where u can find guys chatting up gals, to shame all horny guys who chat up gals cos there is a possibility of rape happenning.

I appreciate reading comments here.
It is quite a surprise to see my blog featured here in "tomorrow.sg"

Thanks alot.

regarding the comments read above,

Question: What’s wrong with married men sleeping with girls 19 yrs of age? They are already no longer under aged! What’s the big fuss about?

Case on victim 9: The fact that the man is 30 yrs of age and the girl is only 19, how would you personally feel if that was your cousin or niece we're talking about, meeting a man that age and having sex with him possibly for the first time (probably with money involved)? The 30 yr old guy is 10 yrs tha girl's senior. She's just been exposed to society and its flaws and then a 30 yr old man tells her he is going to give her a good time. The fact that he is married makes this issue look uglier; for the fact that instead of cheating on the wife with someone whom he knows, he chooses to pick a naive girl off an internet chat room for sex. This is unfair towards his wife and the girl. Quoted from the blog, "This is an insult to us girls emotionally, intellectually and physically. The way they seem to have degraded us by paying for sex and asking for it liberally on the net without even getting to know us for more than 5 mins is intolerable and unacceptable.” Presently, a minority are aware of such happenings on the mirc.

Agreeable with one of the commenters who did not name himself, he said "From what I read in the papers, in many such cases, the girls are not even 18. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the girls want to get into such conversations. Its just that if they reveal their true age (Say maybe 14?), people tends to avoid talking to them because the topics tend to differ. Therefore, , the guy in your channel may be chatting up girls as young as 11."

This is agreeable with the fact that our team has actually tried chatting up with numerous numbers of teenagers and men, pretending to be age range 12-15. In these chats, the males normally would state that they thing we're too young for them or under aged, cannot have sex. Therefore they try pry and see if we will be willing partners even if we're under aged.

The blog is for entertainment cum educational purposes. We expose selectively depending on educational or entertainment levels. With greater awareness of such NON-CENSORED activities going on in relay chat rooms, parents will be more guarded as to monitor their child's internet activities more frequently. This internet chat room experience has brought us to realize the value girls have become in such places; degraded and cheap. Many girls are naive as to want to meet. Some girl's (there are some girls who do ask for sex for money on the mirc, for this case, we will not be referring to them) idea of meeting would be an innocent one. However it is not the same for some of the guys. We have had boys who insist on meeting for coffee and then on the phone instigate sexual activities. Girls end up being lured out of their homes and stripped of their innocence over their naive nature. My definition of girls in this case is not those who ask for sex and are not under aged.

These naive girls are asked out by boys for a supposedly harmless meeting, then when things go wrong, the girls are the ones at a disadvantage. The girls end up being too afraid to report because they are embarrassed and do not want their parents to find out because i m sure every parent does warn their kids about such online predators and if their parents find out that this has happened to their child, they will not only feel angry at the boy but also disappointed at their daughter for not heeding their advice. Only 1 in every such case that happens, the girl reports to the police.

Such experiences are of psychological trauma to females. We girls do not want to be seen as THINGS that men use to have sex. We're much more than just sexual toys. The MIRC has degraded and insulted our gender with the numerous chats we have had and will be posting up on the blog in future.

Sex be it with consent or without consent with an under aged girl is wrong, even more so if a married man is preying after it. The MIRC is not a place to put your REAL IDENTITIES. We have faked our identities for protective reasons. Would u think the guys are for real then?

We hope u do not judge our methods as we're only proving to people out there, that online relay chats are not exaggerated but under stated.
Thank you ever so much for taking time to read.

We will be looking forward to more constructive critisms. Everyone is a critic with their own different views and takes. It’s only natural to feel a certain way :)

You can e-mail me for anything at ---privates2webwhore@yahoo.com.sg

I think what you are doing is great. Many men are despicable! I have a friend who used to chat a lot on adult channels (she is of legal age) and even after telling some guys she is not interested cos they are married or too old, they still try to push their luck and not only that, but also ask her whether she has friends whom she can recommend to them. So desperate!

There is an old adage that say that women are always at the losing end and I think they are right!

Pray tell, how did you conclude that women are on the 'losing end' when it is clearly the men who are so desperate?

Just because women get hassled more than men in the chat rooms does not necessarily make them victims. Let us be very clear on that.

Having said that, in no way do I endorse such ungentlemanly behaviour towards anyone on the internet. And I really think that we can put a stop to it simply by ignoring these boors.

So you and your team are self-proclaimed vigilantes? Go around trying to round up all the married men who want to have extramartial affairs and guys that prefer teenage nubile girls? What next? Start logging down the IPs of those that visit child porn sites? How about stopping people from having oral sex as well? That's against the law too.

Your blog is controversial because it involves sex and IRC, something that has already been covered by mainstream media before. People are aware that there are tons of guys ready to hump underage girls on IRC (or for that matter, on the Net and IRL as well). IMHO, you are just riding on the sensationalism of sex and humiliating those that engaged in sexual chats. (That reminds me of the numerous quotes on bash.org, just do a search with the word "cyber").

It's interesting that you consider a 19 year old is unable to think for herself when she goes to IRC and solicits for married men to meet up (as shown in the chat log). Who are you kidding here? You are just phishing for the personal details of horny guys in IRC.

As to your "We girls do not want to be seen as THINGS that men use to have sex." let me tell you that you girls will always be things that men use to have sex no matter what you do. It's a lost cause unless every man on earth turns gay and start hooking other guys up on IRC.

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, however, there is.

I'm gay, I use other CUTE (I STRESS) men as sex objects and other men who find me cute use me as a sex object and find that PERFECTLY FINE with it. I'm a feminist too. but i think the lady doth protest overmuch

Agree. To add to ur last para, aren't gals allowed to see and use men as sex objects but men are expected not to do so?
And also, isnt it true that all these arbitrary morality crap stems from the fact that many parents treat their 19 year-old daughters as their belongings and not as human beings?

The present- day 19 year old gals are "naive"? What? Are u still living in the 80s?

"30 yr old guy sleeping with 19 year old gal" - 2 months ago, the ST reported a court dispute involving the 82 year old father of Ooi Hong Leong (both VVIP citizens of Spore) and his 27 year old lover. Apparently, he picked her up when she was just 19 years old. I don't recall anyone writing to the forum pages or anywhere else expressing outrage with a 74 year old screwing a 19 year old. Many other egs abound: Rupert Murdoch, Richard Gere, the freaking old current Maths Nobel prize winner from China, Sun Yat Sun (father of CHina), Woody Allen, etc. It seems to me that no one bats an eyelid when it relates to rich, power and successful men but if it is a 30 year old wage earner screwing a 19 year-old, it becomes morally reprehensible. Give us a break!

Then there was Abraham n his servant lover, Mohamed n his young wife. Let's face it: men have a biological liking for young chicks and women are attracted to rich and powerful men (invariably many times older) cos of the womanly instinct for wanting "security". Why dun u go set up a blog to shame such women?

Has it crossed anyone's mind that the BLOG ITSELF deserves flak, lots of it, too?

i'm glad i'm not the only one who thought so.

Nope. Never crossed my mind. I'm a phillistine - sue me.

Overreactions.

You know you guys keep talking about child sex abuse but I wonder if you all actually READ the logs.

[dwight] looking for married man? <*****> yeap :) ure married? [dwight] yes.. [dwight] wat abt u <*****> nah, i m not married. [dwight] u keen in meeting married man? <*****> yea [dwight] how old r u? <*****> 19f

HELLO? They posed as a 19f looking for married men in a IRC channel to meet up. Then they go like "OMFG, married man on IRC wants to meet up with 19f! Take pictures of him and humiliate him!!!!"

By the way, the New Paper has already done sting operations like this on the IRC. Though they specifically targetted those looking for underage girls.

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, however, there is.

Actually I have read the logs. There's one particularly reprehensible one involving talking to an 11-year old girl and an invitation to teach her to masterbate.

Now, I understand that not EVERYONE on that blog has done something illegal, but look closely - a number of them do.

I'm not sure I have sympathy for those that -aren't- doing anything illegal either.

Seth, my point exactly.

Their methods need to be looked at a little.

Was a victim of child abuse. You have NO idea how one incident can change a person's life forever. Left broken, and scarred for life.

it is relatively easier to get consent from a child, not because the child approves knowingly, but simply because he or she wouldnt be able to make an informed decision abt something he has no point of reference to. so there can never be a situation whereby sex with a minor is permissible

What about when these underaged individuals just have a habit of seeking out men (whether maried or single) to have sex with? Remember that underaged girl who was in the news last year I think, who managed to assist in the conviction of 3 men for sexual activities? Yes it is wrong by law and in principal for anyone to engage in underaged sex, but surely we cannot leave the girl blameless in this case?

Right on the Ringgit Brother.
Weak Singapore Men need protection from horny underaged girls!

I am merely stating certain cases, but my stand is still that men's brains are just between their legs.

"Boys and girls should be taught that nothing can justify sexual intercourse unless there is mutual inclination.. Boys and girls should be taught respect for each other's liberty .. they should be taught that to bring another human being into the world is a very serious matter, only to be partaken when the child will have a reasonable prospect of .. parental care"
-
Bertrand Russell, what I believe

with exception to the most recent victims (simply because i hate people who cheat on their wives), how is what most of these guys doing wrong? so they're seeking sex online. is that such a big deal? as long as it's consensual and not statutory rape, i don't really give a shit if these other guys are doing it or not.

i mean, the point seems to be missed - for every (consensual) liaison, there's a willing partner for that sex-hungry male.

i just hate these holier-than-thou attitudes.

Look carefully here, there are no holier-than-thou attitudes. The key word here is underaged.

Sex between consenting adults is a private matter, and none of other people's business. But here the line is clearly crossed when the men, regardless of whether they're married or not, are trying to solicit sex from underaged girls.

- Wannabe Lawyer