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its always nice to see an empowered and assertive alumni.

instead of co-ed, they should change it to a girls' school. after all, victoria is a girl's name ;)

what the alumi think is not impt. Afterall they were history... Wat is impt is wat the current students think abt it...

well, from what i can derive, the sentiments of the current students concurs with their graduated seniors.

its 129 years of history, tradition and culture. the current students are aware what victoria school stands for, they will not want to forsake the education that they are garnering there now.

that's nonsense. how long will the current students remain current students?

As a Victorian, I find that some of the comments made are very insensitive. This is our school, our pride. It has a rich tradition of 129 years.

Dulan Singaporean: What the alumni thinks, DOES MATTER. The petition, the blog, were all done up by Victorians who have graduated. Our school has made such a deep impact on us, that even when students have graduated, they still return. And in light of VS becoming coed, the student body and alumni have come together to show their disapproval.

Huckerby: Thats NOT nonsense. Yes, secondary school life in VS is 4 years. But, once a Victorian, always a Victorian. All of us feel a strong sense of belonging to VS, and we have a school spirit that cannot be described with words.

I hope that I do not come across anyone as arrogant. I am merely doing justice to my friends and seniors, for I cannot stand by and watch as they suffer injustice despite the efforts they have put in to make sure the voices of all Victorians are heard, and their strong love and passion for the school.

hello, you misunderstood my comment. i was disagreeing with dulan singaporean about how it's what the current students think that matters, cos current students only remain so for four years, whereas you (and i) are alumni forever more. read properly please.

Sorry. I suppose reading blogs of my schoolmates for 3 hours last night took its toll on me.

no worries. but what you guys should do now is study hard and bring up the school's standard, so noone can use lousy results as an excuse to go co-ed. we can talk and talk here, but noone can bring the school up the rankings (since this is what it's all about anyway, isn't it) but you students who are studying in VS right now.

Yes. We are debating on what we should do in order to prove to our principal that coed is not the way to go.

There has been a forum set up for discussion.

http://vsforum.jonaize.com

Hey~ I am neither for or against Co-ed ok! I am just saying current students opinion is more impt. If they decide that Co-ed sux then so be it!

Ther'es no such thing as a current or ex-victorian. You're either a Victorian or you're not. =D

But frankly, it DOES matter what the alumni thinks.

Then I think u all can to make your presence felt in more tangible ways, such as promising donations if the school remain the same or vice versa. That is 1 of the most effective way bcos as the things currently stand, it it clear that the principles of VS and especially VJC does not think much about your objections.

Our principal does consider our opinions. Promise donations? VS is a school, not a business.

Err... Many schools in S'pore collect donations if you don't know. BTW schools can be a business too, just go private and collect high school fees. Haven't u heard of the education business?

VS is a government school. Offering to collect donations won't help.

Just some thoughts.

1) The alumni doesn't have a stand.
2) The principal does NOT give a damn about students' opinions.

Not for VS. The Alumni alone may not have a very strong impact, but anon, you forget that its those who have graduated that have moulded the school to what it is today. If the student body and alumni unite, we are able to effectively voice our opinions. Mr Ang, does care about how we feel towards the growth and development of the school. After all, a school is only as good as its students.

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Personally I think that the old boys’ side has been doing a bad job of presenting their case. ... They are trying to make an argument there, and they have to establish links between [their school culture] and the cause....

Through train and IP cannot rope in sister school meh? The Raffles and Hwa Chong gangs did like wise. What merits going co-ed? With all due respect, Gan Eng Seng also went co-ed, like no differences also.

actually Gan Eng Seng went from academically respectable to an academic hellhole :)

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I implore the leadership to listen carefully to the feedback, for we are a multitude who cherish our inheritance and will love to see the Victorian flag unfurled proudly for another hundred years....

till now, I still don't see what the real benefit is for turning themselves co-ed.
hmm....

Are the alumni against it, because they think the school will not benefit from it, or they have no idea why the school is thinking of doing something like that?

Just because a school is co-ed does not mean it is better right? What evidence to prove that? Haven't the single sex school been doing far better? RI, RGS, former TCHS, NYGS etc...

Sure, you could say DHS does well, by historically, it was with few exceptions, did not out-perform the single sex schools.

Or maybe, its more fair to say that a school can do well, whether it is single-sex or co-ed. hmm...

Of course, then you could argue that it does not then make a difference whether the school is co-ed or not right? so, why go thru the hassal of turing a single-sex school co-ed, if all the trouble does not seem to matter at all? hmm...

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Yes. We are debating on what we should do in order to prove to our principal that coed is not the way to go.

There has been a forum set up for discussion.

http://vsforum.jonaize.com

Since the school motto already states, 'thy son are we', then co-ed should not be integrated. A school motto left down by the pioneers have to be changed once it becomes a co-ed school.
I don't see any reason and logic behind why Victoria School should become a co-ed school. Boys wants to enrol into VS, because they feel it gives them a sense of pride... If it becomes co-ed school, what difference does it make to the other surrounding schools?
Hwa Chong Institution, the High School part still maintains as a boys school, although the JC part is co-ed. If Hwa Chong can survive as a boys school in the Sec part, and co-ed in JC part, why can't VS do the same?

uniquely me,
chweekueh!

even if they allow it to be co-ed... wat r the chances that gals would join it? then end up only boys put that sch as once of their choices lor. \=

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... This is akin to saying: " ... We should not consider integrating our all-white club because blacks will NEVER be able to do what we did ... "...

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im highly amused! i seriously think rg and ri will just annoy the pants /pinafore off each other. we aren't nice people hahaha/ and on the other hand, we have vs(victoria school) who are opposing having co ed.haha. boys........

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Moving a all boys school to a co-ed school who has been all boys for 127 or 128 years is akin to putting a 30 year old straight man lets call him Paul through a sex change by force. ...

Haha. So who will the Victoria's Secret's Boys be?