August 16, 2005

No Chance To Vote

Lucian Teo talks about voting and the Presidential Election. He says that he has been of voting age for some time but has never voted.

In democratic Singapore, every citizen has the right to vote. Actually we’re even more democratic than the United States because it is compulsory by law for every citizen to vote. What our darling government has done, bless their heart, is take away our need to vote.

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eh Lucian i think is a he. :)

Posted by SBJL* on 16 August, 2005 - 5:10pm

Have amended Lucien's gender accordingly.

theres still superstar & other similar platforms where voting is encouraged. Just dont sms beyond your means

It is a HE goodness....

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 16 August, 2005 - 11:24pm

Trackback from coup de grace:

When no Presidential Election is a good thing/

...Let him keep the office, but though a walkover, any claim of representing the people’s choice is denied....

No worries about the gender issue. Sometimes even I get it confused.

Trackback from But I Did Not Elect You....:

I'm gonna have a President I did not get to elect for the next 6 years, again?

MP Irene Ng was quoted as saying, that the election for the President was to make sure that if a rogue government were to somehow come into power, ...

the irony is lost on her

irony was lost on me?

you sure about that?

or was the subtle nuances of my message lost on you?

Trackback from ringisei:

This post will use this (non-)event to make some brief points on the wider implications of walkovers for democratic legitimacy with respect to Sg Presidential and Parliamentary elections....

Trackback from Mooiness!:

Why carry on the pretense of an election? Why not just have the President chosen by the government?...

age 29, still haven't voted,, heck I know people age 40 who hasn't voted.. democracy is a farce in singapore.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 17 August, 2005 - 2:09pm

once you recognise that singapore is a feudal estate, you wont need to agonise over petty issues such as voting

And now for the candidates who will most likely get disqualified by the PEC if they ever apply as Presidential Candidate.

http://onehunk.blogspot.com/2005/08/presidency-anyone.html

In Singapore, not eveyone is equal ... there are some people who are just more superior than others. It's the others that don't know that they are inferior. They cannot be expected to make sound and logical decisions as to what is good for them so the government will decide what is best for you.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 23 August, 2005 - 9:21am

Where's sieteoch's take on this? Or is he too stupid to comprehend politics? Maybe he dropped dead from a heart attack taking his annual IPPT test...

As for his turd-burglar, Hah?, he's missing too. He's probably still searching for the words, "election," and "president," in the pictionary.

you talking to me?
you talking to me??
I SAID YOU TALKING TO ME?

I think not, because this dumb !@#$ is too stupid to even get my name right.

Having said that, I'm still living in a country where, if a president wins the majority of the popular vote, he gets into office. (Unlike Gore who won on total popular vote but lost on electoral college system.)
Where it is possible, from looking at a ballot paper, to discern WHICH CANDIDATE WAS ACTUALLY VOTED FOR.
Where we don't have massive numbers of minorities disappearing mysteriously from electorate lists.

And for that matter, Fidel Castro never offered to lead a UN peacekeeping force to supervise any of our elections either.

What most people forget is the full name for Singapore is "The Republic of Singapore".

Republic is not the same as Democracy as a form of government. Republic philosophy comes from Plato (student of Socrates) (see link)

Plato (speaking through Socrates) divides human beings up based on their innate intelligence, strength, and courage. Those who are not overly bright, or strong, or brave, are suited to various productive professions: farming, smithing, building, etc. Those who are somewhat bright, strong, and especially courageous are suited to defensive and policing professions. Those who are extraordinarily intelligent, virtuous, and brave, are suited to run the state itself; that is, Plato's ideal state is an aristocracy, a Greek word which means "rule by the best."

The lower end of human society, which, as far as Plato is concerned, consists of an overwhelming majority of people in a state, he calls the "producers," since they are most suited for productive work. The middle section of society, a smaller but still large number of people, make up the army and the police and are called "Auxiliaries." The best and the brightest, a very small and rarefied group, are those who are in complete control of the state permanently; Plato calls these people "Guardians."

In the ideal state, "courage" characterizes the Auxiliaries; "wisdom" displays itself in the lives and government of the Guardians. A state may be said to have "temperance" if the Auxiliaries obey the Guardians in all things and the Producers obey the Auxiliaries and Guardians in all things. A state may be said to be intemperate if any of the lower groups do not obey one of the higher groups. A state may be said to be just if the Auxiliaries do not simply obey the Guardians, but enjoy doing so, that is, they don't grumble about the authority being exercised over them; a just state would require that the Producers not only obey the Auxiliaries and Guardians, but that they do so willingly.

What we have in Singapore is a perfect example of Republic but not the Democratic Athens what most people thinks.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 18 August, 2005 - 2:34pm

Trackback from Unique Moments of Our Lives by Wynx:

A sudden change of mind?

A few months ago, I read that our president is retiring. Please refer to the following news article, I quoted.... ...

Singapore is a republic only by name. and the ruling classes care more about entrenching their interests than adhering to ideological affliations. in the end, its all abt expediency
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coincidentally, Plato also advocated infanticide, so lets not take his words as gospel

I think many people are more excited about having the chance to vote than the policies/people behind the vote. Its like, they feel that they have never been given a chance to express their say on things, as it was often the case that

1)whatever the govt said is right
2)and when people rejected that, refer to 1).

.... hmmm.. sounds like Animal Farm ain't it? haha...

So, people sort of like the feeling that, hey, at least I get to say something. In a way, its like they want to experience what it feels like to have a say in their country, having felt that they never had one. hmm... But don't worry lah, refer to 1).

The govt knows what you want to say lah, just you might not be saying the right thing mah, so, if you might say the wrong thing, might as well not say right? any doubts, refer to 1).

Or maybe, some people just want to have a nice public holiday. I mean, they are quite practical lah. Since we refer to 1), why not have an elections to have a nice break right?

Posted by walker* on 18 August, 2005 - 9:00pm