July 19, 2005

In Song 2005

yAnn informs us that Victoria Chorale will be having their annual concert, In Song 2005, to be held on the 28th of August 2005. As part of the choir, she talks about the joy of performing.

As a performer, it often gives me a sense of satisfaction and joy to know that the audience sitting beyond the lights are taking pleasure in our performance. What’s more pleasing to know is that we can touch the hearts of young singers out there, those who are singing in their school choirs and dream of joining VJC Choir and Victoria Chorale one day.

For those who do not know Victoria Chorale, it is a small arts group that is largely self-funded and it was mentioned in Tomorrow.sg few months back.

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why would anyone dream of joining VJ chorale, no offense? Even among JC chorales, isn't AC the best? Where I from, it has the better rep at least.

So Tomorrow.sg has to mention an un-notable group TWICE? Your call.

Posted by reprise* on 19 July, 2005 - 7:27pm

This is the Victoria Chorale, which I gather is made up of alumni and alumnae of VJC, as opposed to the VJC Choir. So it's not a JC choir. And I do like posts about people who continue to dedicate themselves to activities even after they leave school. They're putting on an event and blogging about it; it's exactly the kind of thing I like to hear about on Tomorrow.sg.

In any case, the fact that the Victoria Chorale picked up a couple of gold medals at the most recent Choir Olympics seems to indicate that at least some people think of them as notable.

a better rep might not represent a better choir. AC probably have better rep becoz they have more money to spin. And from what you've mentioned, maybe you have not listened to other choirs besides AC to judge.

Sure they picked up so-and-so amount of gold medals wherever. Perhaps they are of a certain calibre, whoopee for them.

That's not my point, I have nothing against the Victoria Chorale, or VJC's, but it's nevertheless not notable: news-worthy. Compare to the Gothamist, one of NYC's premier blogs, yes, they offer a slice of life in the big apple- interviews of common people, restaurant reviews,... etc; but the focus remains on pertinent issues which affects the city as a whole.

An undue amount of posts on Tomorrow.Sg relate to either blogging, the bloggers, and other issues which have no bearing on the majority of the populace on the island. Your choice, if to run the site as such, but that unfortunately denies the opportunity of creating an actual representative portal by the people for the people.

Posted by reprise* on 20 July, 2005 - 1:23am

Ah, you have a different sort of complaint now. The Gothamist is on my RSS feed, and I do like its style. But Tomorrow.sg has never been run along those lines. In the first place, Tomorrow is an aggregator, with most of its content generated from whatever other Singaporeans are blogging about. The Gothamist produces a lot more of its own content from its core group of Jen Chung et al. The emphases that come up in either case are naturally quite different. Our focus is on the diversity of the Singapore blogosphere; often, that means for us highlighting a lot of things that are in fact quite niche, where people pursue specific passions and write about them. The fact that it doesn't have mass appeal doesn't make it invalid.

Having said that, how is putting up a post on an upcoming concert any different from the Gothamist's posts on Arts and Events? As I recall, just this week that blog put up a post on FontHunt, a scavenger hunt around NYC, which would appeal greatly to someone who's really into typefaces (as I am), but is an event that would seem very unlikely to be popular with a large group. In a similar vien, we're always happy to alert readers to events of a certain standard that perhaps only a minority might be interested in watching. You can disagree about whether the event is of any standard, but if you're looking for Tomorrow.sg to only speak about things with mass appeal, I don't see that happening.

mmm, no, I have one complaint, this particular article serves to highlight it.

Tomorrow styles itself the "Bulletin of Singapore Bloggers", nevertheless, it maintains an editorial board to manage content. The editorial decision taken (as I see it, please enlighten me should my understanding prove of the site's workings prove incorrect) was to display a non-notable group, albeit of a certain level, twice.

Is that a showcase of diversity? I construe it as another example of bloggers talking either about a)themselves, or b)items which relate to few but themselves. Yes, the ocassional peek of everyday life is interesting, more frequently, it becomes inane. Meanwhile, absent from the site are articles of actual importance, such as the recent sale of a historic landmark - the Raffles Hotel, for example, and so on.

The Gothamist offers a balance of what you term 'mass appeal' and stuff more estoric, a laudable representation of the geographical location it chronicles. Tomorrow.sg so far, does not.

Of course, I'm still murky about whether this be the aim of the site, ie. the life of bloggers in their small little worlds, if so, then my argument is for naught. But if Tomorrow seriously desires to be a more wholistic portal for the 'common blogger' on Singapore, I consider this point raised about editorial decision-making to be valid.

Whatever the case, I'm delighted to find a poster who can coherently argue, with substance, without resorting to attacks and homerisms that are unfortunately far too common in SG forums and blogs. Thank you.

Posted by reprise* on 20 July, 2005 - 3:11pm

it is red-herring...lets just put this into the FAQ and stop the stupid "why you guys post this?"

bottomline: dont like, dont read. not every we post can appeal to everyone.

hrm, since we seem to be understanding each other less and less, i'll close off as such.

Notability, as a concept, is perhaps most heavily utilised online by Wikipedia, which has to choose on what articles are worthy enough items to display, ie. Hitler vs. some hobo. Their basic yardstick would be that it generates a certain amount of google hits, or is newsworthy such that the event is mentioned on google news. Here, maybe a less stringent criteria will suffice.

Again, using the article to highlight, a mediocre-to-good choir, that has not produced anything exceptional, or of particular interest, has been listed twice. I consider that a rather bad aggregation, as you would put it, of Singapore's blogging scene, or whatever the constituency. I understand that there may be other reasons, such as the poster being personally involved, but were this the case, it would be an even more unsatisfying justification. I leave you to draw your own conclusions.

Finally, thank you for your points and time. Indeed, you have brought some across, for example, beforehand, it was not to my understanding that to extrapolate from those sites a holistic picture of a society at large is considered impossible, and that current events do not have overriding priority.

I consider that a very decent exchange, if only 6 posts long. Unfortunate that a full compromise cannot be reached, and that retards resorting to attacks while contributing nothing to this discussion surface, as must always.

Peace out.

Posted by reprise* on 20 July, 2005 - 7:36pm

sorry for the hasty ad hominum, been a rage of fustration of late. Anyway, putting up the guidelines of posts WOULD be very helpful indeed, if it adds clarity onto the process on what's actually chosen and why.

I apologize, but there, my opinion on the site and what I percieve to something improvable.

Posted by reprise* on 20 July, 2005 - 7:46pm

reprise, if you are interested, i can give you 2 tickets for us to show you whether we deserve the criticism that you seem to enjoy spewing. If you have not heard us, please do come. drop me an email, i'll be glad to give you those tickets to listen before you judge us.