sun ho is not popular in asia. Hardly see any news on her.

The worst place ever

chc cult

hehehuuee - you are a bum and your privates should be crunched up, iced up, beat up, honey'd up, bee-swarmed up and up your bum.

CHC language? Is that a church?

http://www.asiaarts.ucla.edu/110703/sun.html

think the west is only just beginning to discover sun ho. found this link easily by googling sun ho (but you gotta '-ming' because of all the yao ming websites, understandably so). anyway think it's pretty cool that a Singaporean's making waves overseas the way she is. I'm not currently staying in Singapore but i know people here where I live now that are crazy about her, didnt really (still don't) understand why, to be honest..maybe cos i'm not a fan of chinese or dance music. i kinda like her personality though.

I think many of these people discussing about Sun are not even christians. Those claiming to be christians have no idea what is the meaning of godliness and holiness. It is not the will of God for his own child to act like the world and relish the worldly things.

Talent? What talent?

this forum is bullshit! i hate it when ppl uses verses from the bible to justify their stand on a pop icon.. makes them look so small. the more defensive.. the worst it becomes. Narrow-minded pricks.

the entertainment industry is so successful because people are interested. the critics and supporters. it's part and parcel of fame for the celebs....britney spears, victoria beckham, sun ho, christopher lee etc., are public faces, their lives are read as an open book. everyone's entitled to their own opinion. but it just sucks to have something untrue pinned onto you, or misunderstood. you can't judge someone accurately from another man's point of view or 2nd hand information.

You guys are still talking about Sun? Just MOVE ON with life already! She did!

Especially the critics.

Check this:

Have you...
( ) contributed continuously and generously to charity?
( ) built schools to help needy children?
( ) placed Singapore on the international stage?
( ) even found out what kind of person she really is other than from "reports"?
( ) done anything else except to flame her?

If you can check the first three, then please, by all means, talk all you want!

And for the people who claim to be members of CHC, please la, just admit that you've been complaining all this time and you're not even taking in the very basic message of love. You sure you're even a Christian? Really? You believe in God? The same God that's about love? Or are you just another person who says that you're a part of CHC when you've just only been there like - what - during Christmas/Easter for the past 10 years? 10/20 times in 10 years?

aiyo wei,
you all really eat full nothing to do.
but ah, there is something really funny.

the society is like that lor.
dont care u sing gd or not. u can produce results can le.
i mean, come on la... you learn all the school subjects got apply meh? at the end of the day also results based...
all the more we shld minus away all the religion stuffs and skills or talents.

PRODUCTIVITY wise, SUN HO is making it big and influential.
and if not of her religion u all will come and criticise her meh,
being singer though will give ppl say but then u all also reflect la.

if u were given a chance and do the same thing,
how much results would u produce???
if YOU could do better than sun.
i bow down to u.

speaking from an outsider point of view.

I was a CHC member around 2000 and I left CHC a few months after that. Guess i was right. Regarding this Sun Ho's saga, personally I have nothing against a religious leader moving into the music industry to fulfill whatever dreams they have or whatever God has in plan... But I thought the only right thing to do was not to use/manipulate their congregation intentionally/unintentionally as a head-start in their career. Neither should the church nor its members be used as a platform to promote one's personal gain/fame (making sg famous and making us proud is anything issue altogether). IMHO, those were the fatal mistakes Sun and CHC's senior leaders made and failed to correct and address it until some of its members felt "betrayed" or some were even "Very Strongly Encouraged and Persuaded" (CHC are well-known hard-sellers of God's faith) to buy CD's or do things they don't really want to. Peer pressure is one thing a person can reject, but when its mixed with religion, it's another compound altogether.

P.S I have no prejudice against Sun or CHC. I'm just sharing my 5cents tot

"Do I really want to read about a lard-eating cardiologist who obviously has no respect for his own body when I could be learning more about this woman who is putting Singapore on the map AND SINGAPORE CHOOSES NOT TO NOTICE?!"

I dont know but isnt this the same wifey of a pastor who spent a bomb building a cult church? That regularly demands people to give $ otherwise they will burn baby burn in hell?

Give me the lard ass cardiologist any day, at least he is a honest man, we are dealing with crooks here riding on the back of the man - JC.

Philanthropy (with no motives) should be anonymous.
She's doing all those to look good, and earn karma.
She built 3 schools in China and they were so pleased they put her face on a stamp.

Church-goers are not forced to buy her stuff. Some just take it into their heads to show their support by buying her cds, books, etc. When I hear what a supportive congregation they are, I wish I am an insurance agent and housing agent cum car salesperson instead of an office sheep. I'm sure they will support my sales wholeheartedly, and their Rev will include insurance, houses, cars into his speech when he tells the members that fashion and music should be supported because they are made by man who was made by God..

"But what attracted me is that the CHC community that is on high-spirits and everyone is friendly and close. Something I don't find in other places."

Its the rock music, and the mass hysteria and very charismatic leaders.

Ask yourself, when you are at a CHC Service, you feel very high.. so high that some people think it is the presence of The Lord. Yet when they are fervently praying or talking to their God at home, they don't get the 'feeling'. Why? It's because there's no rock music!

The mass hysteria also contributes. When one people cries, people around him are affected and some will also cry. This will spread, and when you have a very charismatic person leading the congregation, such things will happen too.

CHC attracts youths by their music, by their fashion ability. Members are encouraged to wear bright trendy clothes, some of them even wear tees with skulls on them but it is ok because those tees don't have satanic marks.

I had a friend in CHC who was stressed years back because his cell group leader had encourage memebers to turn up for their meetings all wearing a baby blue sports wristband. He couldn't find any except for one offered by Nike, and skipped meals to buy it so that he won't be the odd one out. Can't they have achieved that unity thing by wearing a red rubber band? Oh, I forgot, rubber bands aren't cool and hip, wristbands then were the cool things that celebs wore..

I bummed into this forum accidentally and I was surprised by all the comments here...while the title is actually "Why aren't they talking about Ho Yeow Sun?" Well, it doesn't seem to be the case here...

One thing that bothers me after reading a few comments here was that some people CLAIMED to be a CHCmember after giving your bad comments over Sun, who is supposedly your church member as well? What I see is that if you are truly a CHC member, I believe you would choose to support your church, as well as your church member and not to deframe the people here. If not, I am worried for you all as you are pretty much living in a world of your own irony. If you have so many negative comments over this church, why don't you go to some other churches which suits you more? It doesn't matter where you worship God...the only thing that matters is what is in your heart and your attitude towards going to church. If you still staying in CHC, are you here for some other reasons? Don't you find it hard to stay in somewhere where you hate?

I only wonder if Sun Ho started off her sining career without the title as a pastor...would she be different from the others now? Would people choose to recognise her success? Well, I guess fame comes with a price...and the price for Sun is probably the negative feedbacks from the public. But no famous people has lived their lives without begin criticised...and no successful man has not been the topic to be debated about. Sun Ho is probably famous to the level that she can still earn so much debates over her success!

I believe supporting her or not is all up to your choice. SERIOUSLY, no one can force you to do anything that you don't like. Peer pressure is just probably some obstacle that whether you see it as huge or small. I don't believe that the church leaders so-called "pressure" can put you to buy her albums by force! It is juz plain ridiculous! Oh well, if they really do, then you are just also a cloud-goer, someone who has no decision and character on your own to make your own choices! So are you such a person???

I just joined CHC not long ago and I would not say I am a big fan of Sun or being biased. I actually came from another church that is pretty against CHC and hence I hesitated upon coming when my friend invited me over. But what attracted me is that the CHC community that is on high-spirits and everyone is friendly and close. Something I don't find in other places.

I don't know what had happened to CHC in the past that gives others bad impressions. But I do believe in one thing--people and things DO change over time. What I know of CHC is that they don't force people to do anything, but rather juz encouragements given, which I supposed these encouragements are the ones that people take it as the "forced" comments to buy this and buy that. Come on la...the wallet is yours, the money is yours...you want to buy then buy lo...don't want then don't! Who cares but you only! *duh*

I support Sun because I believe in the things she does. I want to support her charity works in China. You can say she used it to gain her fame but whatever it is, the charity works are real, and the pictures are true...and I certainly believe they are not fake as that is just ridiculous to put something fake for over 23,000 peole to see? You can get legal with false pictures! And I don't see CHC publicizing outside church. In church is reasonable because you are hoping your own members to support someone who is your own member as well...what's wrong with that and the decision of support is in you only...you can still choose not to support! Outside the news hardly even talk about her but yet she is still famous...so it just say that a famous people need not publicise about anything...and those who are jealous of her success will just add salt and vinegar to make things worse on her.

I hope you all will choose to listen instead of talking at times, think instead of shutting your mind before you see others, analyse before you know what is exactly going on in the world...especially outside Singapore.

(I just came back from Taiwan and you should see for yourself who is in the pictures that are posted all over the streets, shops and buildings--Stephanie Sun or Sun Ho?)

You guys really got a lot of time to waste. Do something with yr own lifes.. and stop wagging that tongue. It's foolish or rather childish debating about something tt is not yr problem, Singaporeans Singaporeans no wonder no great people are made here. All run elsewhere. This is so shameful.

I just happened to search Sun Ho's name and happened to bump to this forum. My gosh... I wonder if Sun is related to Anonymous Coward in any way... She sure is a celebrity to catch your notice and two cents worth to write.

Really, it is not nice to write about people like that. We've already got incidents of stars committing suicide and getting into depression because of comments by people on the net. Many stars like people to love them. They're born that way. Whether it's Sun or Stephanie Sun or any other star, give them credit for what they've done. It is not easy to be an actress, singer etc. Their full-time jobs are to please people, to bring entertainment to people through media. Pleasing people are the hardest thing to do.

Find out the origin of Ed Hardy. The designer is really cool. It's one of the popular brands in the US. Stars love it. I think more US labels are coming to Singapore now which is good for the economy. Who cares if it's Sun who's the main distributor for Ed Hardy and Skin? US labels have got really nice stuff. Vivo city carries some new US labels too. But Ed Hardy's not my pattern tho. I prefer Esprit. EDB is working very hard to boost the economy by getting more businesses in Singapore. We need more people like Chew Chor Meng, Sun, and many others to contribute to boost up employment.

As I said in previous posts, the man that spoke out happened to be my Mum's friend who cheated her money. We later found out he was not trustworthy. He's no longer my Mum's fren. Up to your discretion to trust such a man's comment. When was it in CHC's statement that "they believe in suing?"
"They believe in suing the ones who are part of their flock but may not agree with what they are doing too. Happened to one man who spoke out against them a few years back." - by Anynymous Coward.

Do you hate Hollywood stars and things of the West cos they mention the word "suing" too and are involved in a lot of "suing". Do you hate the press too? SPH versus NKF saga? Or even certain powerful political leaders that really exercise "suing"? Now, you'll feel indignant because you are "maligned" by me.

In the same way, do not give comments like these that hurt others. It is a coincidence that what you commented, I happen to know the people. The world is small. What goes around, comes around.

Unless you are so sure and have seen it, you have no right to assume and comment. And even if you have seen it, it is every citizen's responsibility or even a foreigner that resides in Singapore to abide by Singapore's vision. We are to respect one another's religious beliefs and promote racial harmony. Have you forgotten about the racial riots? If we do not even know how to protect our own people, fellow citizens, how can we face the competitive world out there? Just look at Taiwan. Look at the big picture and think about how you can serve the country and community instead of whining about little issues like this. Grow up.

Isn't it true with every star that comes out, that tongues will definitely wag.I mean, this industry is like that, so well, i respect their freedom of speech and it keeps things in check i guess.I am a avid listener of Sun's American Singles, and no...lol...no one forced me to listen to it.I am not going to bring hail and brimstone to this forum.Cos people have a right to dislike and like or hate and love.Its just human.Speculations and rumors will never be stopped.I mean, i see so many CHC members defending her, its their right.I also see so many speculations and critisms, and its ur right too!Haha, and i also found a person claiming to be in CHC for 10 years and speaking bad about her...seriously...find another church that suits u...

well, this is my piece i guess.Its funny how the forum title is 'Why Aren't They Talking About Sun Ho' and this Forum is jammed packed with comments.....irony.... guess not

SeeYa

I have been a CHC member for more than 10 years and I must say that I am really disappointed about this entire 'crossover' project. I agree with what 'Member of CHC and dislikes Sun Ho' said. It's true that when Sun first stepped into the entertainment industry, the very enthusiastic leaders of the church were 'encouraging' the members to buy her albums. Not just one but as MANY as you can afford. Perhaps, this is personal infliction but as a member of the church for so long, I feel paiseh not to 'support' our own member even though I am not a fan of hers. So I decided that I will buy just one album which is still sitting on my CD rack, collecting dust! But the leader came to me and asked why I'm only buying one and 'encouraged' me to buy more to bless the other members! How bizarre?! And needless to say, I am very disappointed when she said she's never regarded herself as a pastor. She has said at one occasion that she will never renounce her pastorship. Well, where is she now? Anyway, that's all in the past. Now the church doesn't promote her or her albums so frequently but at any occasion they find possible, they will subtly mention how she's helped change lives and why we must pray for her. And indeed, at EVERY prayer meeting, we will pray for her. I wonder why such privilege when she's not just a MEMBER of the church. Oh, I forgot she's the pastor's wife. Anyway, you all know that she's open her own boutique, selling Ed Hardy's clothes. Now, almost the entire church wears Ed Hardy and is the walking advertising for her. Whoever goes on to stage to share testimony or appears on the church announcement videos will wear that label. I think that making use of the church members to boost her business is definitely not right. It now seems like the church members are being used for her personal gain!

It's not a question of why people drag the church into the picture but it's a question of why church is putting itself to the picture. In the first place, the church itself had already involved in the publication. You can't deny this fact.

It's not the people who drag the church into the picture.. you should question why the church involve itself into the picture. The church had been involving itself to her publication. You can't deny that fact.

Forgive sun for what she has done. It's indeed a huge damage and big disgrace for a christian who will do anything, ANYTHING and anything just to make herself famous.
Pastor can indeed have a dream... but a dream that keep using God's name here and there as an excuse for all the faults she had done is indeed a sinful thing.

Why spore choose not to talk bout her? because she's too pethatic to being talked about.
and she has 46 boyfriend??? those 46 guys must be really blind. Pity her.
and if you are saying that her english is american english, well... then i guess you really like those fake accent.... or you just can't differentiate between the real and the fake accent.

Just my 2 cents.

CHC, like FCBC and New creation, are commercial profit organisations. they are making fun of God and are only interested in money.

i believe that in life, every single one of us is a human being. It is not wrong to follow our dreams. There is no absolute rule that Pastors cannot be singers or open boutique shops. If Sun started out just lik any other singer did and is holding on to her fame and success now, Singaporeans would not be looking at her as how they are and some of you are. Everything in life should be viewed in many angles, if you were just looking through one perspective you will never see the other side. Being a Pastor does'nt equate to pure and faultless. If you have that idea, you are so wrong. In life you is there to say who is perfect and who's not, its how well you carry your life, live it with pride and do your best. We cannot deny the fact that Sun has already rebuild schools in china and restoring children in homes and schools. Popularity is never gain by works but by results. I bet the children are living a better life then they did before. As a singaporean, I just want to say " Sun, thanks for doing our nation proud !"

1) There's NO God, you idiots all. All your blah-ing and tokings are just for your own ears. And in your own tiny, useless brains, your God exists just to justify your words and actions (for him), so that you may find some pathetic, meaningless feeling about your own pathetic, meaningless existence in this world.

2) Sun is just an over-aged 'actress' pretending to be a victim of her past sexual abuse, trying oh-so-hard to get the media to throw the spot-light on her. If there's a God, and if she's so damn, freaking sincere in carrying out HER god's works, then she should already be damn famous by now. Do we see America going ga-ga over her? Even Paris Hilton's jailterm or Britney's no-panties show are more famous than her! LOL

3) CHC is just a money-making machine, luring idiotic guys to enter with their rock bands and pretty gals, and lesbo gals who enter for other pretty gals. Charity work? Counselling? It's all in the name of money-making. Get over it. This org. sucks big time and is doomed for failure. Why? Let's jsut say...it will never cross the 50 year-old mark, with its current trrend of hip culture, e.g. song-singing, beauty pageants, dance performances. True decaying starts from the inside. We'll just have to see who are in the 'committees' and when does the corruptions begin. It Will take place.

4) Chart-topping does NOT equal to Popularity. Get it, CHC idiots? Anyone can swap up tonnes of your records. It just take some 'under-table', behind-closed-doors negotiations and pre-planning to jack up the sales by buying back all the records. Get it, CHC idiots? However, the real test begins the moment you step out into the streets. Who knows you? Do the Paprazzi chase after you? Do the crazy fans go after you? Even the American Idol contestants, who have yet to cut a single record, get more crazy fellows chasing after them than your Mdm Sun. Get over it, it's a fact. Yawnz.

have been a CHC member for more than 10 years and I must say that I am really disappointed about this entire 'crossover' project. I agree with what 'Member of CHC and dislikes Sun Ho' said. It's true that when Sun first stepped into the entertainment industry, the very enthusiastic leaders of the church were 'encouraging' the members to buy her albums. Not just one but as MANY as you can afford. Perhaps, this is personal infliction but as a member of the church for so long, I feel paiseh not to 'support' our own member even though I am not a fan of hers. So I decided that I will buy just one album which is still sitting on my CD rack, collecting dust! But the leader came to me and asked why I'm only buying one and 'encouraged' me to buy more to bless the other members! How bizarre?! And needless to say, I am very disappointed when she said she's never regarded herself as a pastor. She has said at one occasion that she will never renounce her pastorship. Well, where is she now? Anyway, that's all in the past. Now the church doesn't promote her or her albums so frequently but at any occasion they find possible, they will subtly mention how she's helped change lives and why we must pray for her. And indeed, at EVERY prayer meeting, we will pray for her. I wonder why such privilege when she's not just a MEMBER of the church. Oh, I forgot she's the pastor's wife. Anyway, you all know that she's open her own boutique, selling Ed Hardy's clothes. Now, almost the entire church wears Ed Hardy and is the walking advertising for her. Whoever goes on to stage to share testimony or appears on the church announcement videos will wear that label. I think that making use of the church members to boost her business is definitely not right. It now seems like the church members are being used for her personal gain!

Eh PPL PPL disclaimer ah i am posting here but i got no brain one le
(although i went Stanford Uni for MBA dunno why kanna accepted also?)

my CHC exp le ....that time hor in 2005, i went CHC ah....

PST Kong & 20000 mindless idiots encouraged me buy her CD ah>>>>

Then hor.... i bo pian ah ..... 20000 mindless ppl marched me to bookshop... f
orced my credit card out to buy 20 CDs ah....
even though i listen 80s music only ah....
really i sum pa ah... they say dun buy cannot go home ah!
wah will call yer house non-stop like MLM companies just to make sure u buy ah!
wah tricky church ah!

wah CHC very smart ah!!!!
No brain to think for yerself dun go hor.... they psycho u buy this buy that ! wah lau eh!

u dun give to God they use their commando members force u at knifepoint to make an offering ah!
ya u dun see them around actually - they hiding somewhere behind the curtains will stare at u if u dun give ok?

again i say CHC very smart ah!!!!
No brain to think for yerself dun go hor....
they psycho so good that 20000 mindless ppl go everyweek to hear PST kong talk like king kong ah!
i no brain i go never mind one - i like to be psychoed one
in this age in SG, still got many ppl no brain one incl ppl like me who somehow went NUS and Stanford

californian ah beng (sorry i very hokkien english - LA no ah bengs to relate to le must come SG forum let it all out)

The singapore music scene has really improved a lot with the local bands taking bigger presence. I think there's a wide selection of stuff at singapore shopping directory that you can check out. Have a great day.

The singapore music scene has really improved a lot with the local bands taking bigger presence. I think there's a wide selection of stuff at singapore shopping directory that you can check out. Have a great day.

Hello People, I read almost 1 page of those comments readers had gave.

Based on my personal view, i would like to comment that Sun Ho is no longer doing any advertising on selling her albums long time ago. She's no longer a pastor in this church either, ever since she has step into the music industry to fulfill her career. I believe only those people who are Christian are able to understand what's am i talking about from here. We all know that, our youth generation is getting more and more who are Christian. We are suppose to follow God' vision. To learn all the knowledge preaches from pastors (from CHC or from all over other churches pastors), to impart them into the society which is to fulfill the vision of Penetrating the world and Cultural Mandate. Which means to be the Salt of the earth and Light of the world and shine for Jesus and be a testimonies for people in His name.

Nobody can argue that people are perfect. Over here, i would say that no one is perfect, even the most educated people can make mistakes. So are Sun Ho or rather CHC. The only mighty who would never make mistake is our extra-ordinary God. Agree? We are asked to forgive people who makes mistakes. Things has long passed, therefore, move on. No points saying things that are done, no points crying over a spilled milk.

Today, the church Kong has built is unique in Asia for the following reasons: (1) With a membership of 24,000 members, it is the second largest local congregation in Asia today. (2) A US$28,000,000 titanium-clad underground church complex that is fully paid for. (3) Its worship and ministry style is among the most contemporary and progressive among churches in the world. (4) At a rate of planting one new church every 3 months, CHC is a mission-minded church. (5) With the largest short-term Bible school in Southeast Asia, and 10 other branch schools in the Far East, discipleship is the heart of CHC. (6) With its emphasis to reach out to the spirit, mind and body of the youth, CHC's Emerge Conferences throughout Asia attracts tens of thousands of young people since 2004. (7) CHC's motto of kristos kai kosmos is to bring Christ into the marketplace and contemporary culture of society in a relevant way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thLIyJqqXMI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_36o3Milv4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N57-rct1hvs

its amazing what this woman can do for millions of people while another million reject her, I think for those millions that were touched by her songs or help or kindness it meant the world world to them and it sure means a lot to me

wow... really..after reading all these comments... i think.. rather then sitting down in front of computer commenting about sun or any other things why don't you just go and find jobs.. work.. go to church.. if you are Christian.. pray...read bible.. and do what He says to you.. and get a better life rather then commenting people.. but if u still wanna continue... then.. i've got nothing to say.. God Bless You.. and have a pleasant journey in your life with God..

Judge and be judged....
Pls guard your own walk 1st before commenting guys....
Personally I do not support a few things on chc but please build up one another in Godly love and rebuke in love.....not flame each other or declare who is the real "christian". If it is not from God, God will remove it or expose it to the world....y waste your effort devoting your energies in talking about something is or is not from God....By building up this animosity between christians, we are driving ourselves back to the age of the Reformation and the Wars of Religions between the catholics and protestants.

A Methodist

Judge and be judged....
Pls guard your own walk 1st before commenting guys....
Personally I do not support a few things on chc but please build up one another in Godly love and rebuke in love.....not flame each other or declare who is the real "christian". If it is not from God, God will remove it or expose it to the world....y waste your effort devoting your energies in talking about something is or is not from God....By building up this animosity between christians, we are driving ourselves back to the age of the Reformation and the Wars of Religions between the catholics and protestants.

A Methodist

1st: learning to accept yourself.
2nd:learning to understand about yourself.
3rd: learning to accept others
4th: learning to understand others.

Putting yourself in the shoe of others. <- simple? but often left out. so practice it. Practice make perfect.

All are human and want to excel in their individual strong areas unless you want to be a nobody. we have one life to live so live it to the best that you all (;

Sometimes not easy BUT remember it can be done(;

1st: learning to accept yourself.
2nd:learning to understand about yourself.
3rd: learning to accept others
4th: learning to understand others.

Putting yourself in the shoe of others. <- simple? but often left out. so practice it. Practice make perfect.

All are human and want to excel in their individual strong areas unless you want to be a nobody. we have one life to live so live it to the best that you all (;

Sometimes not easy BUT remember it can be done(;

1st: learning to accept yourself.
2nd:learning to understand about yourself.
3rd: learning to accept others
4th: learning to understand others.

Putting yourself in the shoe of others. <- simple? but often left out. so practice it. Practice make perfect.

All are human and want to excel in their individual strong areas unless you want to be a nobody. we have one life to live so live it to the best that you all (;

Sometimes not easy BUT remember it can be done(;

何耀珊 Sun Ho's Latest Dance Video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmcv88y4-kE

I stumbled upon this forum while searching for Ho Yeow Sun in Google.
As a S'porean, I'm extremely proud of her achievement in the Taiwan, China, HK & the US. She has been invited to the Grammy Awards as well as the Europe MTV 07 Awards - the first for an Asian. I'm glad that our media has been featuring her in our local magazines (8-Days, I-Weekly, Elle...ETC). I look forward to reading more about her from more local media publications - shes really a home-grown talent we should be proud of.

According to her fans, she is foreign talent.

Hello People, I read almost 1 page of those comments readers had gave.

Based on my personal view, i would like to comment that Sun Ho is no longer doing any advertising on selling her albums long time ago. She's no longer a pastor in this church either, ever since she has step into the music industry to fulfill her career. I believe only those people who are Christian are able to understand what's am i talking about from here. We all know that, our youth generation is getting more and more who are Christian. We are suppose to follow God' vision. To learn all the knowledge preaches from pastors (from CHC or from all over other churches pastors), to impart them into the society which is to fulfill the vision of Penetrating the world and Cultural Mandate. Which means to be the Salt of the earth and Light of the world and shine for Jesus and be a testimonies for people in His name.

Nobody can argue that people are perfect. Over here, i would say that no one is perfect, even the most educated people can make mistakes. So are Sun Ho or rather CHC. The only mighty who would never make mistake is our extra-ordinary God. Agree? We are asked to forgive people who makes mistakes. Things has long passed, therefore, move on. No points saying things that are done, no points crying over a spilled milk.

Today, the church Kong has built is unique in Asia for the following reasons: (1) With a membership of 24,000 members, it is the second largest local congregation in Asia today. (2) A US$28,000,000 titanium-clad underground church complex that is fully paid for. (3) Its worship and ministry style is among the most contemporary and progressive among churches in the world. (4) At a rate of planting one new church every 3 months, CHC is a mission-minded church. (5) With the largest short-term Bible school in Southeast Asia, and 10 other branch schools in the Far East, discipleship is the heart of CHC. (6) With its emphasis to reach out to the spirit, mind and body of the youth, CHC's Emerge Conferences throughout Asia attracts tens of thousands of young people since 2004. (7) CHC's motto of kristos kai kosmos is to bring Christ into the marketplace and contemporary culture of society in a relevant way.

M not a Singaporean n m not a pop music fan (gave up pop music since 84). One thing I don't understand why is she ashamed to be called a pastor? Why is she offended if someone still calls her "Pastor Sun"?

If m a school teacher 20 years ago and retired now, and my former students see me and still address me as "Teacher", I wouldn't be offended at all because that's what they knew me as.

U dun like Sun dun pray for her lo?

U dun like Ed Hardy burn down their shop lo?

U dun like her CD dun buy lo?

U have no brain cant think for yerself stay at home and shake leg lo?

Prob u r another Bodoh Singaporean that cant make up his mind

jus becasuse your love for the works of God ain't strong enough to motivate you to support her, doesn't mean that everyone who supports her is compelled by pressure.

we do it because we love her. cheers~! ;)

Seriously man, whether your wants to buy the band or not is totally his/her choice.
City harvest is so big, your fren could've just the leader to help him or her find a wband.

If your fren thinks that being able to wear that band means that meals can be skipped to save money, then that's his/her value.

It has nothing to do with the leader's way of giving instructions

Did you hear the leader say "you must wear a wristband on that day, or else you will look like an outcast"

Wasn't it your fren's own imagination that the person who doesn't wear a wristband will look out of place.

Ask your fren, did he/ she ask around very hard or just asking the members around him/her.

I don't think they demand people to give money. I went there once and I didn't give money... they never come after me leh. And i believe its a good church, or else how come got so many people join from all kinds of backgrounds... from the stupid ones to the intelligent ones...

I thought it was corrected or addressed when there was an interview with sun and chc leaders about it? I heard that it only cover a small page in the newspaper, so no one really saw it. oh, and the guy who bad-mouthed the church in the end made a public apology in some of the newspapers, but then again, it only covers 1/2 page which people might assumed that it was an advertisement and didn't read it properly. Tat one i saw it with my own eyes in the new paper. i think the media purposely wanna make chc or sun look bad.

Quote "Yet when they are fervently praying or talking to their God at home, they don't get the 'feeling'. Why? It's because there's no rock music!"

I felt that too..and I knew it was not the right place for me and I was back to my secular church..back to serenity where I can feel God's presence w/o those rock music...